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SIZZLA'S CREW BEATS NORRIS MAN /THE STAR ARTICLE

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Messenger: prophecy

Sent: 8/8/2007 12:09:36 PM

The article:

Sizzla was not personally involved in delivering the blows to the fellow Rastafarian deejay, which were sharp, heavy and sudden, much like the rain which sent many persons in the huge crowd running for

Cover not long after.

After hours of brief performances and the audience being hungry for 'big name' action, minutes after 4 a.m. the pace stepped up with Chuck Fendah and Richie Spice in combination before there were screams for Lady Saw. There was a flurry of red, green and gold flags at the sight of Sizzla, who rasped "no no no no way". But then it was Lady Saw's turn again, but as she settled in to deejay, there was an interruption and she demanded, "a who a get inna me ting?"

Come off a de b.......... stage

After Saw, Sizzla did Give it to dem, the K Queens had a go and up came Norris Man, who said "Jah Cure lef fi come pon stage" "Me rehearse wid de ban'," Norris Man said, before deejaying "don't try to be no hero".

"Mek sure a no me yu a talk," Sizzla said, ...come off a de b.......... stage".

In response, a defiant Norris Man said, "...k yu mumma,"and Sizzla replied "wha, a dat yu sey?"

There were no more words as there was a physical confrontation on the stage, the hands doing the talking. Capleton stormed up on the crowded stage, as MC Nuffy called for peace to reign.

"Wha oonu a try do? Mash up man ting?" Capleton demanded. "A Rasta ting. Me know de whole a oonu...," he said, looking and pointing towards the direction of the fight. "Norris Man, a waapen to yu?" he demanded. "A Independence. A St. Mary me come from," Capleton said, the band coming in as he deejayed Bun out de Chi Chi.

"Clear me stage," he demanded.

Norris Man came back to tell the crowd, "Capleton invite me a de show, a St. Mary me come from. Sizzla mek him fren dem tump me inna me face."

Bad from town

Sizzla replied; "Norris Man, me a badman, a Kingston me come from," and the crowd roared, the frenzy of flags, screams and shouts getting even louder as he deejayed "a big long gun, I run out pon dem," Munga Honourable following with "dem bway deh no bad like I".

"Look how de ting a run good," Capleton complained, repeating the demand to "clear de stage". There were more lyrics from Sizzla, Capleton and Munga, who said "a our show dis an no man cyaan disrespec' dis. Any bway dis de pattern a gunshot defen' it."

After input from Macka Diamond and Ninja Man, Capleton said "is time fe me call on my special guest," again asking that the stage be cleared. "How some man a gwaan like dem so greedy? Oonu deh ya so long," he said. That special guest was Jah Cure. Tarrus Riley was also called up, She's Royal hitting hard.

When Ninja Man came back with Josey Wales after 5:30 a.m., the 'Deejay Colonel' had something to say about matters, after tearing down the house repeatedly with Love Triangle. "Norris Man, yu cyaan see so much Rasta an waan fight," he said to laughter. "Me no go inna losing war." To Sizzla, Josey said "neva go off on stage in front of the public."

"All my Rasta fren who sey dem a bad man, oonu nah kill nobody. Oonu no bad like me likkle finger. De whol' a oonu, Sizzla, everybody, oonu a go get man mad roun' here," Josey said, his voice rising.

One don lef' an' is Clarendon

And Ninja Man cautioned the two that if something serious happened "memba Norris Man an Sizzla, a oonu one a go a jail. Mark Shields sey when him lef' here, is one don lef' an' is Clarendon."

"Look how much time me go jail," Ninja Man said, deejaying "dem neva bruck a war, neva do a ting" as the rain came down. And after Beenie Man kept most of the huge audience in the rain cheering to his lyrics, Capleton was back. "No badda watch dah ting deh. Everyting good. Rasta deal wid dem ting different," he said, before going on Top a Tings.

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August 7, 2007

Messenger: Ras KebreAB

Sent: 8/9/2007 12:57:01 PM

Dancehall fans having waay too much fun these days lol

Messenger: Osiris

Sent: 8/9/2007 4:35:55 PM

What does Oonu mean?

Give Thanks

Messenger: Ark I

Sent: 8/9/2007 4:37:55 PM

"Oonu" means "you"

Messenger: Ark I

Sent: 8/9/2007 5:03:17 PM

I wonder what Emmanuel would say about the behaviour of these people fighting over such foolishness?

It seems that some of these people are proud about their wickedness and being a "bad man". I have also met people personally that call theirselves rasta but are proud of wickedness and being a "bad man". They cherish that more then RasTafarI Livity. I never hear of Emmanual moving around like a "bad man".

I think it is good for a group of people to be able to defend theirself and be known as a group that should not be attacked or messed with because they are strong. But this thing I hear from this article and other things I hear about is not that.

Much of the reggae scene vibes seems to be moving more towards the gangsta rap vibes. I would have hoped that it would have been the other way around.

I didn't Iverstand before why Emmanuel spoke against playing reggae music. Now I realize that there was good reason because the more power many of these people get, the more arrogant and wicked they get.

And so many people defend their wickedness and are mislead into thinking that this kind of behaviour is the way of a RastaMan.

I never see RasTafarI, Haile Selassie I behaving like these people or encouraging others to behave like that. All I have seen from Haile Selassie I is the opposite.

People need to learn to ingrain these words of Haile Selassie I into their mind. I repeat like I have repeated so many times before.

To be neutral is to be impartial, impartial to judge actions and policies objectively, as we see them either contributing to or detracting from the resolution of the world's problems, the preservation of peace and the improvement of the general level of man's living conditions. Thus, we may find ourselves now opposing, now supporting. now voting with, now voting against, first the East, next the West. It is the worth of the policies themselves, and not their source or sponsor, which determines the position of one who is truly neutral.

This, We maintain, is the essence of non-alignment. Those who would righteously denounce one side on every major problem or issue while reserving nothing but praise for the other cannot claim to be non-aligned, nor can those whose policies are shaped for them elsewhere and who wait patiently to be instructed whether they are to be for or against be called uncommitted.

It is good to promote the righteous things people like Sizzla and others say and do. But people need to get out of this partiality mindset and stop defending wickedness just because it comes from somebody who has taught them good things.

I wonder how many fools would start using crack if some of these "heroes" started to promote it. People need to escape foolishness and learn that what is important "...is the worth of the policies themselves, and not their source or sponsor"

Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I

Messenger: Ras KebreAB

Sent: 8/9/2007 6:51:54 PM

Ises I

Yes i it is disappointing. very
But still, as i have said the last time Sizzla came up "One last thing i would like to say is, dont make the music about the personalities, leave that for MTV, let the music stand on its own"

All I want is the works, the good music, after a man leave the studio, its between him and HIM

But before ini say too much, let us see how the full story comes out

Having said that, in relation to what the I has said Ark I, InI all know the Father, i know ,the i knows and im sure sizzla and the whole of them know. InI all know that if any of them were in the presense of HIM or Emmanuel they would bow their heads and keep quiet. And so InI should live in reality, live in the knowlegde that while InI might not see JAH with these two eyes,ini are still in HIS presense, night and day.
But, if i may, i would like to bring it down to this world for a minute, this world where, even though ini strive for perfection, ini still do wrong from time to time,ini still slip and make mistakes sometimes. The I them still with I ?
I question is how do you feel you would react in the same shituation?
I know it is impossible to say with certainty until it actually happens to you but still, what do you think you would do.
Right now sitting here, i would like to say, yes, i would be able to control i temper and act according to I Father�s example
but if a man said to I "go suck your mumma" i really dont know if i would be able to let it pass
And on top of that, on a stage show, infront of thousands, to be disrespected like that, i really dont know if i could take it ( seeen, that is my vanity right there, something i have to work on to let go of )

Blessed Love an Ises
Rastafari Is

Messenger: Ark I

Sent: 8/10/2007 12:16:20 AM

My reasoning isn't so much about the reaction to Norris Man's comment about his mother. And it in not just about Sizzla. It is about what lead up to that comment, during and before that show, the livity they live. Leave the fighting to babylon, RasTafarI shouldn't be fighting eachother. And it is not about people making mistakes, it is about people deliberately choosing wickedness and still calling themselves Rasta, and even trying to use RasTafarI to justify their wickedness. You say "don't make the music about the personalities", I would agree with that for most people, but not for RasTafarI people.

When I first starting learning about RasTafarI it was a Livity, a Way of Life, not a religion or group or club. And RasTafarI is still a Livity, a Way of Life, not a religion or group or club, no matter how many people try to turn it into that.

And my reasoning wasn't about Sizzla in particular. I mentioned his name when I made the comment below for three reasons that are very much related to eachother, because Sizzla seems to be the most popular, and secondly, as a consequence, I hear the most defence from other people about the things he does, and thirdly, he has so much influence on the youth and many people young and old look to him as an example of the ways of RasTafarI people.

Here is the quote,
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It is good to promote the righteous things people like Sizzla and others say and do. But people need to get out of this partiality mindset and stop defending wickedness just because it comes from somebody who has taught them good things.
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Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I

Messenger: Ras KebreAB

Sent: 8/10/2007 6:35:28 AM

Blessed I,

Dont get i wrong, i completely overs what the i is saying and i am not in disagreement, well, perhaps except for the use of the word "wickedness" , i feel it is a bit strong, but i dont know maybe you are right.
All i was trying to do with my post was to take the reasoning in another direction. Instead of talking about the livity of people who we dont really know in reality, ini might talk abbout ini own livity and the kind of things that provoke and trigger a man to do wrong sometimes even when he knows the right.
Still, INI can keep that reasoning for another new post i suppose

But the reason why i said let the music stand on its own is
well, the i asked something like would some ppl start taking crack is one of these artists started promoting it.
And thats what i meant, thsese kinds of things only happen when ppl make the music about the personalities and start idolising the artists, then you get problems.
cause music was never supposed to be so. Music is not supposed to lead you to wherever it wants to, YOU are supposed to pick the music that will lead you to where you want to go.

" It is good to promote the righteous things people like Sizzla and others say and do. But people need to get out of this partiality mindset and stop defending wickedness just because it comes from somebody who has taught them good things."

Yes i, but my point was not about promoting and defending. My point was about promoting the good things and leaving the wickedness to die out by the wayside
Recently, i was reading,one of the reggae magazines, was it the Beat? with Rita Marley on the cover ? Inside, Rita was talking all manners of things about Bob, things like Bob used to go to whore houses and this and that, and im sure many already know some of what she has said about Bob from before. Now i am not disputing Rita, this could be well her truth that she is speaking for all i know. And as her life, she is free to talk as she wills, though i wish she wouldnt do it in such a public manner.
But assuming that it is the truth, does it take anything away from the beauty, the power, the impact of the mans work?
In my mind the answer is no, not even a little bit. Cannot the Almighty call upon even the sinner to carry out HIS Work as HE sees fit?

Give thanks, the i give i things to ponder on
Rastafri Is

Messenger: Ras KebreAB

Sent: 8/10/2007 8:05:00 AM

The good things

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZn_rCUgBk&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f7RZ4N0PBE&mode=related&search=

http://vbs.tv/player.php?bccl=NTA1MzE0ODg0X19FVEM=&r=new
scroll down the menu, you will find VBS meets sizzla vidoes

Blessed

Messenger: prophecy

Sent: 8/10/2007 11:05:36 AM

Emmanuel or the congress on bobo hill does not isider these artists as bobo, because of their actions. Plus, they burn out reggae music. They feel reggae does not bring u salvation and I agree. However, I do listen to it sometimes and I know others do too. What is interesting the ones that weren't fighting were the dancehall artists, it was the rastas that were.
I cannot speak for Emmanuel but it was discussed in the movie, "The runaway slave". That is the reason i posted it to show salvation is not in reggae, but I didn't say that because I respect that many listen to reggae. When u sing Jah name out of ur mouth or dada's name, u must not sing it in vain. Especially for the bobo who follow the ten commandments. What folly.

One more thing, roots reggae has become so commercialised(maybe that is the wrong word). I did recently buy a reggae cd in NYC, the cover said roots. When I listened to it, it was not roots and culture. Judgement!
A cd I bought prior to that did have SOME roots, but in the background u hear a wombman having an orgasm..i was red hot..That is nico bam bam..

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