Carter: Hemphill shouldn't need to prove in a court of law that Soros was a soldier in the SS to call him a Nazi on a reasoning forum.
You're getting it twisted. You can SAY whatever you like, but you need to be prepared to back it up. You need to be prepared to get called out on it. You need to be prepared to show that its not libel if its written or slander if its verbal. You are trying to excuse propaganda and conspiracy theories based on lies. No one has to sit back and tolerate lies. And the whole purpose of these lies is to attack our organizations and institutions. Because you politically lynch one person and you think that's it. But no... it's not. People use that person to attack other people and its basically anyone they don't like... JUST like the Salem Witch Trials. That's why people are saying BLM is a terrorist organization. That's why a man, trying to "MAGA" his way into the history books, sent bombs to people's houses. You think that's innocent? Seems like it is you who are naive. Did you not understand the reason for the saying "the pen is mightier than the sword"?
Carter: I've seen evil that would change your mind.
Me too. Dylan Roof. That was evil. Dylan Roof didn't contribute to BLM. He murdered black people in a church. Do you see the difference? I've seen people get their heads cut off. I've seen enough to judge between good and evil. You seem confused. I can help you. Good deeds are good. Bad deeds are bad. Humans are complex. Judge not lest you be judged.
In your rush to judgment you are identifying good deeds with evil and excusing bad deeds at the same time. IF you don't like plutocracy, join the club. However, change the system. Don't demonize everyone using it to their favor or because they think a democrat is going to do more good and so they try to help them win. It's not evil to have a lot of money or to use that money to help people. NEITHER of you have actually shown any real evidence of Soros being "the bad guy". If I had his money I'd do the same things he is and I wouldn't feel bad about it either. You think you know what's in his heart because you know what's in his wallet. I like you but the truth is you don't.
carter: but I would call him a SOCIOPATH. Granted, sociopaths can do "good" if they stand on principle, or if they simply have no opportunity or benefit to do evil, but that's not Soros.
Okay, based on what? Because so far all I hear you saying is "because 1 million is like less than 10 cents". My point, and the point I think you're missing, is that Soros's contributions and philanthropy is proportional to what he can afford. So even if for you it seems unfair because of the amount he's able to spend, the only reason he's able to spend that amount is because of how much money he actually has. And it's nothing to sneeze at but why should he give less money to all these different causes that are good just because you can't afford to match him?
Carter: when the owner got home and gave back all the stuff he didn't want
I'm not sure why you are equating investing with stealing. Care to explain?
Carter: Not only that, a lot of the time these charities serve as money laundering organizations, so their friends can pick up public prestige while doing drug deals and human trafficking.
1. which charities?
2. which friends?
You're telling me "drug deals" and "human trafficking". Right? But you're basically accusing him based on the idea that there are rich people in existence who do these things. That alone is not convincing. If you were making billions of dollars in legitimate investing, why would you need to invest in criminal activity and risk getting caught? Your argument is that a person just loves evil so much that even though they don't need to, they invest in it anyway. No proof of course. Sounds like just another conspiracy theory.
I haven't made it a secret. I've made over 10K this year from the stock market. I feel really good about that. But at the same time I'm playing with small numbers. If I was investing millions of dollars I would have 10s of millions in profit, just in a 6 month period. Why? Because of timing. Understanding the markets, when to buy, when to sell. When I had over 20k in investments I wasn't sitting there thinking, "how can I roll this into the black market?" So that's a separate choice from just making money through investments. You could be broke and sell weed. Or you could be broke and become a pimp. But it is not fair to assume that everyone who is poor is doing those things. It's also not fair to assume the same of people just because they're rich. So don't tell me about the game. Tell me about Soros. Where is the actual evidence of his direct involvement?
carter: Altruism isn't giving what you can afford, it's giving when it hurts.
Who ever said George Soros, Bill Gates, and others had to be altruistic in order to give? Instead of being selfless I prefer if people are simply balanced between their own interests and others. There's no reason to hold these humans to the standards of deified men.
carter: What would get my respect is if they stopped scamming in the first place, and stand on principle even when it calls for sacrifice.
Explain how Soros is scamming. You guys are just saying stuff but not actually explaining any criminal activity. If I talk about Trump University the scam is obvious. Give an example. You can't go from altruism straight to evil. You're overlooking 99% of the population.
carter: Sociopaths are compulsively evil, because they literally can't care about others.
I know these definitions. HOW is HE, George Soros, a sociopath? He seems to be using philanthropy to fill a void after feeling like he failed in his marriage and as a father. That doesn't make you a sociopath. Give me examples of things Soros did that made you say "that's a sociopath".
carter: There are cults that push them to suicidal nihilism through degrading rituals.
And which cult is Soros a member of? Because if you know then you have a smoking gun and we don't even need to debate anything else. But you can't be like "There are real vampires because there are real people who drink blood." and then say "Wesley Snipes is a vampire". One thing does not equal the other.
carter: This stuff has been talked about for a long time, but no one believed it.
That's because they are theories, which by definition, haven't been proven.
carter: Then Alex Jones shut a lot of people up. He exposed the likes of Skull & Bones, the Bilderberg group, and the Bohemian club. Even got footage of the "Cremation of Care" secret ceremony, which made him a LEGEND
BS. First of all Skull & Bones is not a secret society. It's just a club for Yale kids.
But like a lot of clubs, part of the idea is that membership is exclusive. Therefore there will always been people looking from the outside in and imagining what's going on inside. It's interesting how you left off the Free Masons from your list. And the Illuminati; Even though most US presidents are said to be Masons. But these clubs are not much different from Greek fraternities. And the Masons are not much different from the Moose Lodge.
The reality is that different clubs provide circles of people to network with. But if you've never hung out with a celebrity it's probably because they have a different circle of friends than you. Clubs have different circles of members. Some are VIP, some are not. Now if you want to think each of these clubs are raping babies and eating snakes, but you're not worried at all about the Church of Scientology, then hey... that's on you. But the reality is that any exclusive club is going to be powerful for different reasons than a non-exclusive club boasting a lot of members, is still powerful.
But what Alex Jones did was basically crash a club, and turned it into mythology. He created a story about what went on there but captured NONE OF THAT on film. He didn't catch them doing anything wrong. He didn't turn the tape in as evidence of any crimes being committed. And if they didn't know he was there you can't say "oh they usually sacrifice kids but coincidentally, they were just doing a fake one today. The "Cremation of Care" had me fooled when I was young as well but as I got older I realized what Jones was doing. He was taking advantage of our ignorance. Anything we don't know about because its private or hidden, he goes in, acts like someone spilled the beans to him, and now he knows the truth and he proceeds to tell you what it's all about instead of you finding out on your own. The Cremation of Care is an allegory. Originally there was no "malign character Care" that was part of it. And there is no satanic ritual this comes from. But because I was young and dumb I actually believed that there were real people knowingly and intentionally worshiping Satan so that's why I could believe that this was a satanic ritual. Instead, how could I have known, except for the fact that I was naive, that Christians OFTEN LIE in the service of their beliefs. And they make up all this satanic stuff and then pretend that's what people are doing.
Instead, different versions of the play (its a play for goodness sake), would depict cares and troubles of the world, like prohibition and WWI. It wasn't cremated or killed but was later standardized. But for Christians, it was basically a circle jerk of their own imagination. And what you don't see is the people going in and showing that it's harmless.
quote: The footage was the centerpiece of Jones' documentary Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove. Jones claimed that the Cremation of Care was an "ancient Canaanite, Luciferian, Babylon mystery religion ceremony". The Grove and Jones' investigation were covered by Jon Ronson in Channel 4's four-part documentary Secret Rulers of the World. Ronson documented his view of the ritual in his book Them: Adventures with Extremists, writing: "My lasting impression was of an all-pervading sense of immaturity: the Elvis impersonators, the pseudo-pagan spooky rituals, the heavy drinking. These people might have reached the apex of their professions but emotionally they seemed trapped in their college years."
According to the documentary, and I personally saw the tape numerous times over 10 years ago, Jones expected to find people worshiping the owl that he said was Moloch. The problem with that is, not only do you NEVER see this in the video, but he makes you think every time you see an owl, that's Moloch. But in ancient times Moloch wasn't even depicted as an owl but rather a minotaur. Jones acts like he knows everything about all these "satanic" things when he's just using things anyone could find over the internet and filling in any gaps in his theories with straight up lies.
The reason you can find a member list of just about any club is because they're NOT secret. But Jones never bothers to explain this to any of his followers. He just pushes the narrative with the same crazy passion he's known for; even when talking about children who could have been gunned down at their school and went through that traumatizing event.
HE DOES NOT CARE. And you want to talk about who is a sociopath? Really?
carter: Eventually he became a complete scam artist, but that's the way it goes.
Well this much I can agree with. The problem is that conspiracy theories are an echo chamber so if you got a guy like Jones, and I agree that he is smart, he can draw links between 10 different conspiracy theories without proving ANY Of them. There is a reason why fortune tellers and palm readers, and I have an ex-wife who did astrology and numerology, there's a reason all that stuff seems to work. It doesn't mean they're harnessing demonic power. They're simply making connections and using their imagination and knowledge of people to fill in the gaps. If they're good the experience can feel all too real and people pay for it. This is what Jones does. Just about any symbol you can think of, you can break down into some occult meaning. However, if you assume the original occult meaning was satanic it means all the other usages are people meaning to be satanic.
But... what if the original usage wasn't satanic, just "occult"? Gnosticism, for example, is "occult" because it involves hidden meanings. I remember when I thought Jewish Kabbalah was satanic because of people like Alex Jones equating everything "occult" with satan. I had so much to learn but I immediately wanted to know everything. My early ambition for knowledge caused me not to check everything people were saying when I should have. Now I question everything.
Dude, TYT is still good even though there is a lot of shows centered around social justice but I think they were just ahead of their time. In fact, part of the reason I started watching them was because of the stances they had taken very early on and defending my community when most other white-controlled media outlets were acting like black people were making this stuff up. But it's because they're multi-ethnic and many are descendants of immigrants. They attack the Democrats all the time because they support Progressives and similar to Bernie Sanders, being a "Democratic Socialist", Progressives are technically Democrats too but the party has been controlled for a long time by center-left Democrats like Hillary Clinton. On the right, I don't hear virtually ANY support for my community AT ALL; just a bunch of attacks, dog whistles, and voter suppression. So even if I don't like the party I came to the dance with, I'm definitely not about to dance with the people who are worse for the interests of my community. I can understand if its too much SJW for you but, for me, being used to our stories NOT being heard or talked about? It was definitely appreciated because not everyone watches them everyday. So different people watching at different times are getting information they need to hear. But people adopt new information gradually over time so you have to keep repeating it even if you think it's too much.
Do you guys have any TANGIBLE proof that Soros is involved in ANYTHING illegal/satanic? Because if not... I don't know we're talking about him so much. But it really doesn't matter how many people are spreading a rumor. It doesn't make it true. And this is someone's life and legacy. So until I see some hard evidence to counter all the good causes I NOW (because of you guys) know he donates to then that's how I'm going to think of him. Facts over feelings.