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JAH or YAH

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Messenger: White dread Sent: 7/21/2006 7:59:30 PM

We know that Jezus should be spelled with a Y because the old aplhabet didn't know the symbol J. (correct me I the I is wrong) SO why do we write JAH instead of YAH. Iman know that spelling ain't a big deal. Iman wa sust wondering. One Love

Messenger: Dread Lion Sent: 7/22/2006 1:08:34 AM

Iman think alot of people forget that other languages are not codes for English, they are entirely different and whole unto themselves. Hebrew and English do not share a single letter. Once, at a Nyahbinghi, a young Ras I was reasoning with had the same name as I, but felt that his spelling, Stephen, was somehow important because that is the way he saw it in the Bible. I wonder if he ever stopped to realize "Jesus" would have been pronounced "Yeheshua" by his family and freinds. Iman have heard from numerous sources that the "Yah v.s. Jah" contreversy goes back to an Incient Ilder, Ras Boanerges, who, in his old age, had suffered a dimunition of his reasoning faculties, and pronounced "Jah" improper when he realized that Hebrew has no "J" sound and a schism ensued over this proclamation. I believe this happened in N.Y. and caused a rift in the Rasta community there. Does anyone know more about this? BLESS

Messenger: zionI Sent: 7/25/2006 2:17:42 PM

Biblical names: EliJah AbiJah AdonaiJah etc. Jah has infinite names. Every word spoken comes from the breath given by Him. Call Him from the heart. J or Y, matters not. JAH Ras Tafari

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 7/25/2006 2:41:15 PM

One thing that is funny about the spelling is that sometimes people act like it is some big conspiracy why it was spelled with a J. The reason why it is spelled with a j is because j used to have a y sound. Many European languages still use j to represent a y sound. I usually say Yesus or Eashua, but I still say Jah. It is not quite the same for I to say Yah RasTafarI as it is to say Jah RasTafarI. I think the sharpness of the J sound has more impact when it is chanted. And anyways, RasTafarI knows who I am speaking about when I say Jah. Ark I RasTafarI Haile Selassie I

Messenger: Brethren Nicholas I Sent: 7/25/2006 3:56:50 PM

greetings in the name of the Almighty Jah RasTafarI HaIle Selassie I True words. Jah knows. Selassie I

Messenger: I Selahssie i son Sent: 7/26/2006 1:38:50 PM

Exalt him by his name Jah.I never saw no jeezus in no bible yet the word is Jes, us.They cruisify Jes,us and call him Gjeezus,A(Y) is a (Y) a (J) is a (J) Rasta.King james them betrayed our bible so some people do not overstand.Check this(we rastafarians say alleujah,but the europeans say (alleuah).We say (Omen),but the europeans say (Amen).We say Selah and they dont say it.beyond all contradictions *Praise Jah Jah,me still yah*.Dont forget the prophet Elijah. Jah Rastafari Holy Immanuel I! In this language yah.

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 7/26/2006 2:43:41 PM

In Ethiopia, they don't pronounce Elijah the way English people do, they pronounce it Eliyas, and they pronounce Jesus as Yesus. There was a mix up at some point in history where the J wasn't translated into Y for the English bibles. A Y is not necessarily a Y as you pronounce it and a J is not necessarily a J as you pronounce it. The J in mexico is pronounced as (english H) and the J in many countries is pronounced as (english Y). Ark I RasTafarI Haile Selassie I

Messenger: Elijah Sent: 7/26/2006 4:47:20 PM

Yes I

Messenger: Nyah Jahphet Anbassa I Sent: 7/29/2006 6:31:14 AM

Blessed Love Yes, J is not a hebrew letter. But JHWH is also not a hebrew word. JHWH means 'I AM' (and similar), but not in hebrew! JHWH is a proper name which comes from creation, a creation sound that existed long before the earth was made and man started a language called hebrew. By the way, it is not for sure which exact language or dialect the InI spoke during the exodus, there must have been certain egypt/african influences after 400 years which changed only by and by into an ancient form of hebrew. Further it is well known, that the name JHWH was not handed down in the spoken form, so it is impossible to restore the original sound. So scriptures will not help the Is them on this decision. It is about personal consciousness. I for myself, considering that it is a creation sound, find JAH much more original and powerful than Y. But we know for sure that in the later times, Israel used to say Yahweh, or Yah. But JAH comes from creation. Selah

Messenger: Elijah Sent: 7/29/2006 7:28:48 PM

Yes Ya

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