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What is the power of Confinement

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Messenger: Ras Levi Seraya Sent: 10/21/2005 11:04:46 AM
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what is the power that confines the inner beast, what made I & I come to a point of accontibility. is there a Holy Spirit that dwells amongst I & I, if so what made I worthy to be able to house the Spirit of God, is it simply observing laws, i ask this b/c i fell there is a spirit of miseducation, not ignorance totally but the misinterpretation thereof

Ras LevI Seraya


Messenger: Nefertiti Sent: 10/24/2005 8:22:04 PM
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Bless rasta far I
Ras Levi..what is meant by the "inner beast"? I site that the questions r interesting. I wanna overstand the quetion B4 i word...

INI consciocus, inner KNOWledge of INI to be accountable. It is knowing the Live-inity of i creator(where i come from) is perfect and that is already Ini. It is knowing INI infintie power and how it is to be used in ini knowing and overstanding I-ration. It is not about being tied to any $hit$tem of any man's making putting ones and ones down or ones and ones up....rather the perfect universal order of LIFE.

WORTHY? if one is alive then one is worthy to Overstand and LIVE perfectly...

LAWS...that is what u define as such. Any "man" that is put up as a CHRIST broke laws one could say(Moses, Ghandi, Yeshua, MLK) so how do u live...by laws or consciousness.. get the IBLE out and site these things-one day eveyone will live under thier own fig tree and no one will have to be taught these things becuz they are written upon the heart.. as they are now... FREE will to live out that.

EDUCATE.. that is what ones do in life. There is no ONE teacher nor student.. all ones and ones are teacher and students consciously..Education is merely an excuse to leave your destiny your overstanding in the hands of someone else. Have no fear to be CHRIST that the I live to be.

The only inner beast is the fears that ones have yet to overcome...

Blessed Love
Rasta Far i
Haile I Selassie I




Messenger: Ras Levi Seraya Sent: 10/25/2005 4:25:48 PM
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what if i told you that there are two influneces that exhist on every man, the inner beast is the essence of unlawfulness that exhist within man, the destructive force that if not guided can cause people to err. if one discredits this issue or force than one has fallen victim to self-rightousness and is ignorant to the two forces that affect people and society, can one think that people are mean, or selfish just because, no this is futile to think so. and as far as what i follow, a person can call it conscienceness, or laws but everything governend in this world or anything else is governed by consrtucts, even as Rastas there are "laws" that are followed. Ones own conscieness composes laws or guidelines that are their to show IandI when we have trangressed, this is why consciensness takes different forms depending on the laws that are observed. If one didnt understand laws how would one know they were or were not consciencly aware of certain things and how would one know what to be aware of. thats why i dont believe in total freedom, it just comes down to what or whom is served,
and even though the laws of Jah are upon I heart, they are manifested in a concrete form of my walk with The King of Kings

see the reason for this post is because when i joined i expectected to see and witness brothas and sistas coming together and "reasoning" but i see a lot of bickereing about idealogies, and the fruit doesnt fit the tree it claimed to be apart of, dem yell Rasta but dont understand that Rasta is not religion, but a way of life, i just wanted to know where people where coming from.


-We are all as pawns in this game, even in our effort to be Kinglike and sovereighn we promote our own servitude-

Ras Levi Seraya
Jah Bless


Messenger: soul sista shirl Sent: 10/26/2005 4:44:13 AM
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greetihgs in the nane of the most high jah rasta fari
i not sure bout inner beast as jah dwelleth within the i .
but i ni do know that satan there .he give us the self doubt the whispering of negativity , try to turn us from jah . when one's spirit is low he come and try lead i down the wrong road .
you have to believe in the victory of good over evil . the hotter the battle the sweeter jah victory .
when those negative vibes come within the i you must recognise it the works of satan . i ni jus have to pray to jah and thank him for the strength and guidance to overcome those negative traits .
have you ever noticed when the i in company of the heathen these negative thoughts come more so than when in the company of them that hve jah in there hearts . in the past when i have experienced those negative vibes , I HAVE CALLED OUT GET BEHIND ME SATAN ,also they say if you read a psalm a day it keep the evil calm , it works for the i .
blessed love to one and all
trust in jah sistren and bredrin


Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 10/26/2005 11:27:05 AM
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Chant a Psalm aday!

RSK


Messenger: Nefertiti Sent: 10/27/2005 12:33:45 PM
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Blessed love Rasta far I

MAY THE WORD OF I MOUTH AND THE I-DITATION OF I HEART BE ACCEPTABLE IN INI SITE- RASTA FAR I

INI don't site much bickering here at all. Name calling and walking away from the ISH is bickering becuz then there is all noise from one mouth with 2 closed ears.

Reasoning is iron sharpening iron, clarification of what ones know and overstand so INI as one SITE TRUTH..... I have cited often enough word sound from M. Kalenga

"TRUTH WITHOUT STRUGGLE IS NOT TRUTH AT ALL, BUT RATHER MINDLESS AGREEMENT."

If ones know all things then why even come to reason, or if one come to reason, then what does that mean to offer knowlege and then when one does the ones don't want to hear it, so what is the point ? INI let go of the "i" when ones come to reason in expressing the spirit of I'S-UP (what babylon call we's-dumb.) This is humble place, knowing who one is without feeling ashamed but acceptance of the roles of guide and student. THE INDIVISIBLE DUALISM

So the i want to see and then tell ones and ones that there is an "inner beast", and essence of UNLAWFULNESS. InI ask the i what that all about. Why ones mek ones life so complicated and stress? If ones want to beLIEve that the most high i-rator mek all things, then it is the same one that mek this so called "inner beast". BUMBKA KLATT on that. IS evilness what the i is referring to? The scriptues say according to Yeshua that "it is not what goes into us that makes one sin, it is what comes out."

So What is the inner beast. I don't overstand this talk of it. Lawlessness ? Where do "laws" come from? The only law that ini site is LOVE and i nah mean ROMANtic love, ini site real love of LIFE which is truth.. they are one in the same. The i-rator did make create i for huggy kissy reasons, nah ! the I-rator mek all living things becuz like when a man an woman come together they are able to Create, beauty, the image of ini... Ya check. THe only destructive force, is the choice that the i is free to mek and later regrets and then continues to mek right by further deciet. There is no "OUTSIDE" nor "INNER" force that is greater than the I-rator, that is INI. This lawlessness is an INVENTION of man's desire to control or take away another man's life of creation of life of truth.

I just don't site this "HOLY" victim thing. Everyone wants to be a victim, as sort of a helplessness to other life. ASking JEES-US to DIE for US...bumb klatt..u mek the i-rator jah a imperfect creaotr for making such a mess of u. If you take that to the level of ini history of downpression then u discredit all the struggles and victories over death that INI ancestor overcame. INI not VICTIM.... the i is a steward of LIFE , destiny in whatever way it come.

Ziggly Marley says

"love is the only law to obey....IF u keep it in your mind to commit the sin, i know that NO Destruction is greater, what is your aim , better explain."..."we only live to learn to love, and no lesson is greater, make your aim suffer no pain."

Whenever one say that a "force" causes one to err, well that means one continues to give that force the power over one. THe most high , as ini father, mother- i-rator gave INI all the resources of life and still man is running sround looking for someone else to save him and blame for his misery. I just don't live that way of life..i do not stand, sit nor fall under UNDER that way of thinking

The only laws are the ones that u put into ur mind. Is it necessary for someone to tell u not to murder,kill,steal,rape,lie? No, your natural consciuos tells u that and when u don't follow that, u experience the judgement and sentence that u have put on others...look at Cain and Abel. ones can watch how things move and site that to overstand actions have reactions.

Natural Law ...that is what that is all about,,,and that doesn't mean there is no forgivenss,it means that there are consequenses that affect the next moment.

LAWS...Why are ones so concerned with laws.....live your consciousness (i see the word CON-SCIOUS as "against the laws of science" cuz science is merely attempting to overstand what already exists in nature) For example, the laws of science can explain the reason we breathe...but BREATHING is the first thing a baby does once born, if he waited until he went to school to learn the rules, he would die, ya check?

Rasta, let go of the chains of your laws and $hit$stems and live. Radiate out the love that is in the inner essence of ini being, the very DNA of Creation. Has the i read HIM auto-bio and Marcus garvey?

As for i, i am not a pawn of any game, unless i chose and i don't. I am a king queen and it allways time to be so....I chose each day to live to the fullest of perfection and when i disappoint i, then i chose the mercy to the fullest and that is the lesson that fills a wholly day. Man as image of the most high perfection has teh ability ot exereience this emotional essence beyond the other living things of the earth, and so ini utilize it living here along with the other LIFE forms animals and plants and yes other man....It is the intent, the goal and the destiny of what INI livity.... not a measurement of man's invention.

want peace?...live ini righteously and just.....regardless of the outside...and u will site peace.

Nuff love and raspect..stop the doubting of self....that is what gives power to CON-FINEment of the i.

love all-ways
Rasta far I
Haile I Selassie I




Messenger: Ras Levi Seraya Sent: 10/29/2005 7:23:50 PM
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imagine your life without Jah, do you think I am on the path of rightousness just because, na, it is the fact that the spirit of Jah is more powerful than the spirit of The foe, simply put the inner beast can be considered the "flesh", or fleshy desires, those desires that come from Evil seeds and not the good, anyone would know this unless they've never experienced spiritual warfare, IandI war against the spirit of wickedness with the Holy Spirit of Jah, I should know this unless I have been upright since birth, but if One doesnt see that IandI have and evil side just as a good one, then One should meditate hard on this and overstand exactly what I sayin. I believe we on the same road just at different points. ive read plenty of books on the Patriarchs philosophy and they credit Christ and The Ible
they understand the spiritual battle between
and i thouroughly overstand the ways of Ras, im no new comer to Rastafari
like it is written in Jeremiah 1 "While you were yet in the womb I new you" Jah has struggled with I since birth and He showed me also that if it were not for Him then mans desires would rule and consume them

and I not consumed with laws but to descredit their influence on life descredits the government of God in our's im not professing that IandI should be bound by laws b/c this is a type of bondage, but in every order and every organization their are laws, dont get caught up in the word, look toward the essence of the funtion and see what is a law. my point is not about laws ur focusing on something else, my question is simply why are you on the right path and the next sister not, or what makes one do right and the next in the same househould do wrong, what is salvation to different ones, thats all



Ras LevI Seraya


Messenger: Nefertiti Sent: 11/8/2005 11:51:44 AM
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Blessed love....Rasta far I
Here is a native american story....perhaps this will shine light upon the i quest....


The Two Wolves

One evening an old Apache Warrior told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people. He said, "My son, the battle is between two "wolves" inside us all.

One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: "Which wolf wins?"

The old Apache simply replied, "The one you feed."

Author unknown

I still hold fast to the truth that LOVE is the only law to obey.. I don't interest ini in the "laws" of man in organizations and such.. ini big grown up i-ration of the I-rator....Natural order is just that NATURAL ORGANIC....and ORDER

Love is the only law to obey
Rasta far I
Selassie I


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 11/13/2005 12:29:02 PM
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I see all of Jah Creation as One with Jah with a little exception. The only thing that I see as separate from Jah is our mind, unless we choose to be One with Jah in completeness. I sight that Jah gave this choice to I and I to make a creation that does his will by their own choice, even though they have the option to choose not to. When we choose Oneness and have completed the choice, then we will never deal with wickedness but will only do righteousness because Jah only deals with righteousness. Those that are One with Jah will have the character of Jah, and the character of Jah is righteousness. Jah created I and I in Jah image, so just as Jah has will and choice to do what Jah decides to do, I and I have been Created with will and choice to do what we decide to do.

It is much greater to create a being that deals with Jah ways because they want and choose to, rather than a being that only deal with Jah ways because they don't know how to do anything else. Jah is not looking for a puppet that doesn't know what they are doing and only moves according to the strings. Jah is developing and raising One as HIMself, that knows and chooses, but always chooses the right. And I think that Jah granted us our desire of choice for a good reason. For now Jah will see who will remain with Jah when given the choice and who will go away, and also who will return to Jah again. It is much better to have a child that stays with you, not because he or she has no other choice, but because this is what he or she wants. Then Jah will know who is truly One with Jah.

Jah can create anything, there is not even one limit or bound to what Jah can create. So Jah can create something that is One or something that is separate, or something that has a choice to be One or separate. Jah created I and I to have choice. When I and I ate of the tree of knowledge in the garden of Eden, Jah said that "man is become as one of us, to know good and evil". I see eating the fruit as our first choice, that led to many other choices, and to many problems for I and I. Because we often make bad choices.

I and I ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. So I and I are able to choose to do something uplifting, or something that destroys. And Jah is watching His Creation, to see how people choose to live. And when judgement day comes, he will keep those that are One.

I see life as a combination of the consequences of the choices we make and the will of Jah. Jah has the power and strength to intervene and cause things to happen. Jah can help those that want and ask for Jah help and Jah can stop those that need to be stopped. But in general, Jah gives us our choice, and the world reacts to these actions. Jah will help I and I out of the troubles of the world if we Live for Jah, but Jah will leave us to fend for ourselves if we refuse Jah. Jah doesn't always will everything that happens to happen, Jah allows things to happen, Jah gives us choice and if we choose foolishly, then Jah will let us reap what we sow. That is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that we desired and took, it is the choice to listen to Jah direction, or ignore Jah direction. So when we choose to listen then Jah will be our rudder, Jah will affect situations that would otherwise cause pain or strife, and protect I and I from the waves.

So we have the choice to be with Jah, or work against him. Jah is always there to guide us in the path of harmony if we choose to listen. But Jah has given us the choice to make our own path, whatever path it is. The world is full of actions and reactions. If you see fire and touch it, you will get burned. It is not that we are punished by Jah for touching the fire. It is that fire has a certain structure, and we have a certain structure. And when fire comes in contact with us, our flesh is damaged.

This is how I see the world as a whole. It has a certain structure, and we have to know how to harmonize with it, or we will recieve the reactions to our actions. For example, the reactions we receive as a result of our destruction of our environment.

I see Jah as the One who can show us how to get through and harmonize, to be our rudder so that the waves don't overtake us. Jah made creation to work and harmonize as One, just as he made our own bodies to work and harmonize as One. And in the same way that we can destroy our body if we don't use our parts for the benefit of our body, we can destroy some of creation and ourselves by not living as One with creation.

Jah has shown us Jah example many times in history, as seen in the bible and other scriptures. And Jah Itinues to show us Jah example so that I and I can learn and Live the same. So this is the quest Jah has sent I and I on, to be One with Jah in completeness, by Living by the example of Jah.

When we Live by the example of Jah as shown by Christ and Haile Selassie I, then I and I will be One with Jah with no separation. I and I were created to be One, but given the choice to be separate. It is our mind that completes our Inity or causes separation from Jah. Oneness means choosing the will of Jah, not just choosing something different from Jah and calling it Jah will. The will of Jah is One of our choices, but it is not our only choice.

Jah has shown us Jah example through Christ, Haile Selassie I and others. And we also see the example that is not Jah example, which is a possibility that was created by Jah, but it is not the teaching, nor the way, nor the example of Jah. It is our other choice, because Jah only wants those that choose Jah. If somebody doesn't choose Jah, then Jah will not force them, Jah has given us this freedom. But Jah will only select those that are truly in Jah image, that have overcome and are One with Jah, and Jah will bring them to sit on the throne with Jah.



Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


Messenger: Nefertiti Sent: 11/13/2005 7:20:45 PM
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Blessed... yes I ras Ark I

RASTA FAR I
HAILE I SELASSIE I



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