Greetings Duru
"Yes I , seek truth talks about shankaras "Advaita Vedanta" nonduality , which is also a concept or must be then an illusion"
Of course, all is conceptual and all is unreal. Even to say you exist is not quite true. How are you going to prove it? You cannot even prove to yourself let alone prove it to anybody else, the moment you utter a word your are drawing on the capital of experience, which is only your memory. Memory is only a figment of the imagination. Similarly by the same token of experience you know that you exist by being conscious and aware of that state in consciousness. Your conviction that the body is not an illusion bears testimony to the reality that you exist as pure awareness WITHOUT A BODY!
"I was stuck on illusion as well without realizing dat d present moment is d only reality"
The present moment is not the reality, it only has the stamp of reality. The absolute reality cannot be known. The eternality of the self; the only reality, is reflected in the embodiment of consciousness as a infinite process of birth and death.
"but on this presence it includes all that is and obviously its always been here and now and by denying the so called projection of consciousness will simply make it worst ,"
What makes it worse is ignorance of your true nature. It is your light that reveals all that you see or rather what is seen. If you have a light and you put a colour filter on it what do your think be projected? Your light of awareness is projected onto the film of destiny your mind and projected onto a world of your own making. You contradict yourself when you say it's all there and spontaneous the deny its preordination. The oak tree and its destination is contained in the seed, likewise the whole universe is contained in the atom, it appear in movement because it has exploded into time; the mind shuttling back and forth between past and future creates momentum for this motion in time. Potentially it will always be here just as the reflection in the mirror is always there when you stand before it.
You have it back to front Duru
By denying the embodiment of the consciousness you break the cycle of birth and death and all suffering ceased to be which is obvious. To eliminate all suffering is the end game, a boon that is so rare and hard to come by.
"this is why many ascetics and celibate is born simply killing d whole joy of life "
Pain and pleasure are one, you cannot have one without the other no more than you can have light without its counterpart darkness; they come in varying degrees and intensities. Just as do the the pleasures of life. One man pleasure is another man pain. Now I'm not prescribing asceticism or celibacy what is, is and it is the total functioning of the consciousness as a whole. Nothing is to be denied. but rather understood and seen for what it is; an appearance in the field of consciousness. Once there is the understanding. it disappear of it own according. In reality nobody is doing anything, it is all happening by itself
"since d whole projection is reflection of InI which can't be illusion for instance if d sun is d reality does it then mean then that its light and rays are illusion ??? Obviously dem are 1 and not separate meaning d same and obviously real."
Haha!! The sun is also an illusion and will eventual burn out, once all it's gases have been exhausted. Even the stars and their galaxy's will eventually be sucked into oblivion then finally the black hole will implode. Leaving a reflection of the self in the form of light without iridescence. The whole process of resolution and dissolution will start all over again. Do you not see the repetitiveness within yourself? It is the same thing but only on a grand scale. A concept is born flourishes and dies. All this that you are witness to is the cause of friction between oneself and the idea that you have of the self .
"Regarding free will ,I did not say life is predetermined since dat makes life like a movie meaning being scripted seems dat someone or somebody must be responsible for it"
Again you contradict yourself, if it is spontaneous, then by all means it is happening by itself; therefore, if it is happening by itself, nobody is responsible. It is your mind that gives you the impression of movement is nothing but a film passed before you; your light projected onto this film intersects with the colours, coupled with the momentum of time causes it to appear in movement. Once this reel come to and end it rewinds and starts again only in a different light
",no man , life is spontaneous not predetermined, all happenings happens as it is, "
Exactly has it is. What is the difference; spontaneous, random accidental are all aspects of predetermination. Do you know when the urge to defecate will arise at the exact moment in time ? Do you know the exact moment in time when you will be overcome by sleep? You only think about these things without any clarity.
"but this is from d point of view of d higher I but from d lower I it functions thru free will , "
You are deluded in thinking that you are free to do as you please without the involvement of its necessary corollary. For every action there is a reaction, one cancels the other out, the balance is restored as if nothing happened in the first place. Nothing is happening and nobody is doing anything all is happening in dreaming.
"InI bun Babylon totally spontaneously ,all wickedness is being bun down by InI spontaneously still ," reunification of Africa for d equality of all mankind is happening spontaneously but d efforts is happening thru d lower"
You are deluded into thinking that consciousness comes in varying degrees and qualities.
Consciousness is a whole and function as a whole. As I've said, there is a balance and it is kept in check, self regulating and spontaneously happens by itself.
To me there is wickedness, there are no wicked people, they are what they are. Do you think that Africa reunited under a new leadership will be the end of a suffering? People are influenced by their leaders no doubt and from time to time there are leaders who catch a glimpse of the reality and act accordingly. It is their influences that affects the people and for a time the flow of life becomes sweet for as long as the tide is hight, then quite naturally and suddenly things fall into decline. Ebb and flow of life is a natural function of the consciousness. Look around you!
"I , d realization of InI dat mind is not conscious but a tool is spontaneously happening but d effort still comes from d lower I while d higher I is simply witnessing it , So even though all wickedness is continuously happening righteousness will keep on burning it spontaneously as it and d effort or free will is being done by d lower I as it is ,"
That happening is happening by it self for the self. There is no higher or lower self; there is just the self identifying with the minds process of wax and wane.
"just like d grass is growing spontaneously so is life...."
..... And so are you. This idea of doership is absurdity, you do not live life , life is lived through you, this body is merely an instrument of conduct .
"some grass get rotten and some grow as a forest , d more aware InI are InI become a forest and d deeper d roots d higher is d tree and"
But what has this to do with you. You are only a witness to all of this, you are not in the appearance of thing, the subject cannot be an object in the consciousness no more than the handle of a touch can be in the beam of the light that it shines .
"sweeter are d fruits then d seeds will spread while d birds eats d fruits and spread its seed,"
This is all part of the ongoing creation process which never ceases. Even whilst you are sleeping it continues relentlessly; unabated .
"all d wicked will someday learn from its mistake only time will tell and InI is d fiyah dat keeps on burning it and so as it is happening spontaneously ."
You mean everyone will be liberated. And naturally so, just as the seed in the right conditions sprouts into vegetation, blossom and comes into bloom, releasing the fragrance and realisation of the flower in its full glory.
Selah
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