Mel: IPXninja death to all oppressors! You seem too confused by the wine of Babylon.
Sorry, but no. And yes, saying "death to all oppressors!" sounds cute and all but I do not support violence, both morally and strategically. And whoever you report to can look at my posts on multiple sites and see my mentality. I'm for liberation but more so equality and self-determination. I am not for insurrection, terrorism, etc. I am for economic power, not military power. Radical talk is counter-productive to my goals. I support civil disobedience when necessary but not vandalism or rioting. So feel free to make a note of these things.
Of course agents sometimes use speech like this to see who the radicals are and mark them. Government agents have limits in what they can say because there are rules against "Entrapment". Once they find a radical their job then becomes developing this person into more of a threat and getting them to the point where they can get into radical groups and later use them to turn informer and sell out those groups. I am not against that cause as I cannot support radical groups. But do I believe you are a government agent? At this point, no. However, if you're trying to be viewed as something other than an agent you should saying things that provoke others to share an opinion pro/con "death".
Mel: Stop believing everything you receive here in this world. This world is made to make you believe their system that is made to trick you. So now you just want to divide InI according to what they told you. Be free and stop being a parrot to this world. Death to the oppressors.
I have been in debates for over 20 years and its always telling when the opponent needs to put words in my mouth or express some intimate knowledge of my beliefs outside of what I have and continue to share openly. I say nothing in secret. Therefore, if you have proof of what I supposedly believe and proof that it is wrong, then by all means, introduce the evidence. Let's talk about facts, not feelings. Because you seem to be more than happy to make things up. On what basis would I want to divide my brethren? How would that serve my interests? I do not agree with ANYONE who believes the bible 100%. Can't. I know way too much for that. HOWEVER, when do you see me using my biblical knowledge to divide? I've used it to correct YOU because YOU misuse the bible to endanger MY people's lives. And you do it in such a casual and flippant way that I do not see how MY people could also be YOUR people. It's not impossible. But it is highly unlikely considering the evidence I've already cited in your case, including you saying White people are good and that they're providing food for Africa.
White people are neither good nor evil. You CANNOT judge morality based on a person's color. You have to look at what they do and weigh that against the actions of your own culture to make sure you are not being hypocritical. So I say, some white people are evil and many white people are IGNORANT. And from both positions they can be part of white supremacy. And I disagree with others they are equally guilty. Many human beings had to receive further education and enlightenment in order to free them from the norms and customs of their society that they believed were just and righteous.
As I said before... agents tend to be vague.
It's very easy to accuse someone of being tricked by "this world". That is record-breaking in the context of vaguery. Literally, everything you know, good or bad, comes from "this world". Opposition to "this world" is also from and is a direct result of "this world". So this argument is a logical fallacy. Falling into the trap would equate to me defending myself. So no... I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to point out that no one knows what this means; not even you. You're being vague as a matter of course because you lack the evidence and honesty to be SPECIFIC.
Mel: And I promote the science from those independent labs that knows there is no virus and that the government is lying as always.
Which labs are NOT independent?? Here we have another fallacy. Here, you're basically trying to play on people's fear that "the system" controls everything and everyone. This is false. If it did, you would have no sources of information from which to make such claims because all of your sources would be lying for one government or another. What you would like everyone to think, even though you have ZERO evidence for it, is that ONLY the "labs" that say there is no virus are the ONLY ones that are independent. This is a mockery of science and not at all how science works. Science uses "peer review". That means the findings of one scientist are really not considered as believable without being reviewed by another scientist and backed up with reproduction of the same results.
The lie... and in my opinion it is a very stupid lie... that conspiracy theorists love most to tell is the lie that the government is willing to put out a lie that is easily contradicted. Governments tend to hold their credibility as sacrosanct. Governments would lose legitimacy and risk complete overthrow if they cannot be trusted with the safety and defense of their own people. So even if there are very bad people in goverment, that doesn't mean they will lie with reckless abandon. People lie. Humans lie. But typically, liars lie because they do not want to be caught. Conspiracy theorists often suggest that people will lie even when catching them red handed is inevitable.
But there are scientists around the world, many belonging to nations hostile to each other. These scientists have no reason to support another government's lies; especially if that government is their enemy. So while a government could lie and say "there are weapons of mass destruction here" or "they are bombing their own people" trying to lie about science is like saying the sky is green. And outside of virologists who don't all work for the NIH, FDA, etc. you have doctors, nurses, and many others who test people, see the results, and see what happens to people. I don't have to believe anyone else when it comes to covid-19. I had it in my own home. My future wife had it and lost her sense of smell. The common cold or flu doesn't have this effect so it cannot be mistaken. And when people have these symptoms before getting tested, and the test confirms, and then other people who don't have it (like me) also get tested, and the test confirms they don't have it, then how is the test lying if it correctly shows the people with symptoms having it and those who don't without anyone inside the lab actually knowing everyone has symptoms or not. In other words, it is often a completely blind process.
Blind and double blind processes are one of the methods science uses to remove doubt or bias in the results.
Mel: Support Individual scientists doing their work with other individual scientists that knows the government is wrong.
This is also a fallacy. If a person has a bias against the government their opinion can bias whatever they call test. And how, exactly, would they even test a virus they don't believe is real? This would be like trying to produce a scientific test for an imaginary friend. It's not possible. A scientist could only prove the government is wrong if they had access to a number of covid patients and tested each one to determine their symptoms were caused by something other than covid-19. But in order to say that every case around the world is not covid-19 they would have not only disagree with all the scientists and doctors testing them positive for covid-19, including my sister, but also show that these patients actually have.
But like other conspiracy theorists you believe you have the right answers because your scientists are more trust worthy than everyone else's. But you can always find biased individuals in any profession; including science. Just like you can always find people willing to trade their credentials for 15 minutes of fame. But if you are only listening to people who already agree with your position then you are simply living in a bubble where information cannot penetrate.
Mel: Dont know why you trust the government so much. The same government that imposed slavery just some years ago has not just vanished into thin air. They are still the same elites thinking they are the higher race while we are all the useless eaters. Nothing has changed about the government. People have changed by being tricked into believing the government and all their lies. Bless
Who said I trust the government? Again, you can put words in my mouth but I'm more than capable of refuting you when you lie. I never said I trusted the government. You are wrong. It was the Trump government who first said the virus was a hoax and downplayed it. So in reality YOU are the one who trusts the government. And even when the Trump government came clean about the threat and Trump said to take the vaccine, people still wanted to believe what Trump said in the beginning. And of course they also blamed Asians, leading to racial hatred and discrimination against them. When Trump said it was a hoax, I knew he was lying. Trump is one of the biggest liars on the planet.
Trump was given the play book on how to handle a pandemic by the Obama administration. They threw it out. You can hear Trump for yourself. He bragged that we haven't lost anyone because he wanted to downplay the threat. That's why he compared to the flu and many other people hopped on that bandwagon and even right wing republicans got the wrong message because Trump never had any interest in protecting them, only himself. So you are massively mistaken. When covid-19 hit, Obama was not in office and neither was Biden. It was TRUMP. And if we were all listening to Trump as you are accusing me of, many many more black people would be dead now.
So why people forget this, the reason can ONLY be political. Dr. Fauci was there before Trump and Trump wanted to control what Fauci said. But then later he started attacking Fauci because he couldn't. Why? Because everyone who works for a government agency did NOT pledge undying loyalty to the president.
So, according to Mel's logic, wouldn't this disagreement with Trump... the symbol of US government at the time, mean that we should trust Fauci because he went against Trump and knew Trump was lying?
At the end of the day... everyone should be able to see the truth. Out of one side of his mouth Mel says "government is lying" but when Trump or Putin says it Mel believes it is the truth. So are we wrong for pointing this out?
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