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Messenger: jessep86 Sent: 5/11/2020 3:11:23 AM

I just want to bring up the fact that epidemics have affected sooooo many of our ancestors.

"People in ancient times weren’t the best when it came to maintaining a sanitary and clean living environment. With the lack of sanitation came infection and some infections inevitably led to diseases. Thus began the long, shared history between human civilization and illness. Surprisingly, our ancient ancestors were actually exposed to far fewer infections and diseases than us. But around 10,000 years ago, people started living in major settlements primarily based on agriculture. As pivotal and revolutionary as these settlements were in shaping the future of human civilization, they also brought new diseases and epidemics with them. People were now living close together in unsanitary communities which were perfect for prevalent animal diseases to jump species and cause an outbreak."

We got to look at all possibilities. Don't worry, JAH is in control, always was, always will be. If we stopped this from becoming onto this top 10 epidemics in mankind's history, we are good, we are godly, we have care for our people and are wiser, cleaner, stronger, healthier and all thanks to the hard lessons learned by those who came before us and the grace of the Almighty,

If its otherwise, it will still be good over evil in the final results. JAH has plans and will execute, execute, execute and in the midst of adversary- execute! So let us be for HIM and with HIM, and of God is for us, who can be against us?

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 5/11/2020 8:55:48 AM

unfortunately, a lot of people are choosing this time to advance their own agendas. If you ask my mother she will tell you that if you want to be protected from COVID-19 then you have to follow the health principles in the bible. Why? Because she's obviously listening to information coming primarily from her CHURCH and it is a matter of BELIEF.

Belief is fine for many things. I'm not trying to knock faith. In fact, I think everyone should have more faith in themSELVES and believe that they can do amazing things because that is the very first step... in doing amazing things.

But science and belief DO NOT MIX for this reason. Don't misunderstand. You can enter into a scientific discussion or thought based on something you BELIEVE is true. But you don't TRUST your beliefs. You TEST them.

These people are not in labs testing their beliefs. They're giving you opinions and other people are using their credibility to say these opinions must be correct. My sister is a doctor but she is not a specialist on viruses and hasn't experimented with COVID-19. So when she sends me a bunch of masks and tells me about what she's seeing on the front lines of treatment, in Florida, I take that information for what it's worth. And I know tests were not widely available because of what she told me; having first hand knowledge.

Honestly, these (few) doctors should know better. They have dealt with flu cases before so they are more familiar with that series of pathogens. That does NOT make them experts on covid. If there was that much info on it there would already be a cure. There ISN'T. There isn't even a cure for the common cold. They've been trying to cure the common cold since the 1950s. Instead we have tons of cold and flu medicines to help treat the symptoms.

If one of the symptoms of covid is making whatever respiratory and heart conditions worse then that is a SYMPTOM. You can't then say "oh that's not that bad." Yes it is that bad. Just because it doesn't affect everyone equally doesn't mean it's not a problem. COVID-19 is a pandemic. Period. If you like Trump, that's fine. Then why not like his people? It was his own administration that passed on warnings about a potential outbreak. It was Trump's job to do more about it but it was still his own administration that said it was serious. And none of them have been saying it was going to magically go away once it got warmer. That came from the same person who questioned whether or not people could "clean" themselves from the inside by ingesting cleaning products. You cannot blame that level of stupidity on Trump's people. That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard next to nuking hurricanes.

So this isn't political just because Trump is an idiot. That doesn't mean all republicans are idiots too. You are actually allowed to think for yourselves. And you don't have worship Trump and jock every little thing he says or every decision he makes. If you like certain things about the MAGA agenda... fine. I can live with that. What bothers me more though is this idea that he's like some kind of perfect godman... like white people's Selassie. That... I can't. I just can't. And when you pretend like your guy never makes mistakes WHILE PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY DYING WHO TRUSTED HIM... not only can I not take you seriously but that's when I lose respect.

And then instead of trafficking in useful information designed to help protect people, these Trump acolytes and zealots are actually making America sick again, and spreading idiocy and lies and bogus conspiracy theories that put money into the pockets of conspiracy theorists, media, and authors who wrote about ANYTHING similar to what they can believe or imagine might be going on but have NO KNOWLEDGE OF. And not only do they make up stories about how the US government is trying to kill Americans, but now basically saying that the Chinese government has the same agenda and therefore cooked up covid in a lab. And none of these people realize that the CONSPIRACY THEORY IS AN AGENDA. It is a "marketing" agenda.

Messenger: The BANNED — Hemphill Sent: 5/11/2020 9:20:08 AM

Of course you are correct jessep. This message has of how our ancestors lived with and managed disease was brought up by Dr. Zach Bush in the 2 hour long video I posted. He brilliantly made the point that the biome, especially bacteria and viruses, is the language of life, that it self regulates and knows what it’s doing. He makes the example of a field of natural grass with healthy self regulated soil, where the weeds can’t flourish.. but when humans come in and till up the dirt trying to “improve” on the soil and planting conditions, that we find we just destroyed the natural balance and bio language thus giving weeds, who were always present with seeds and potential in that soil but kept at bay by the natural regulatory system of the natural bio language, the perfect chance to grow and take over the field.. So it is the same with our “war” on viruses and bacteria and the human gut that we are disturbing and giving these otherwise easy to regulate and destroy illness the chance to take over and spread like wild fire. Obviously he, Dr. Bush, explains it in much better detail and scientific accuracy, but that is the basic message. We are foolish to think that we have to “kill” all disease with vaccines and antibiotics and hyper sanitization.

As far as your other point of Jah being in control, you are correct again. I just can’t help but wonder: If Jah was to come and speak on this situation, saying BE STILL (not to be confused with no movement, but to go about life normally and naturally), FEAR NOT, that the ones here so obsessed with the media’s perspective and talking points would 1: say this Jah has “questionable credentials” and 2: insist that this is so dangerous and scary that we NEED the lockdown and vaccine and government control to stop this in the future.

We are in dangerous times, but it is NOT FROM THIS VIRUS, it is from our fear and faith placed in the system to “solve” it.

They are, by Dr. Ezike’s testimony, using an extremely vague standard for classifying “COVID Deaths” to report as many deaths as possible to justify the continued lockdown and expedited (and mandatory) vaccine. Again:

"It means technically even if you died of a CLEAR ALTERNATE CAUSE, but you had COVID at the same time, it’s still listed as a COVID death."

Messenger: Kiwiman Sent: 5/11/2020 9:31:56 AM

History also shown Gods people to be persecuted. The Copts Armenians and Ethiopians, the Israelites, the Waldenses, the Amish kicked out of Europe, in India now and Myanmar for others.

Gods true peoples are usually peaceful and forgiving and as such will suffer invasion and malice. Rome hates the people who not drink from the cup of Babylon.

But the plagues affect sinners whose I and I is missing. I'm-unity

When I travelled in Bali most country people gardeners, many barefoot and old women topless, each have mini Hindu temple in every garden near the house. Carry machete. But tough and hard working in good health when old and easy to laugh.

Thailand same Buddhist offering at temple every day too. Healthy.

Babylons people tightly packed like battery chickens.
Eat the battery chicken - become the battery chicken.

To be civil means to give space for others to be whatever they want. Maybe even 'do what thou wilt'
This not gods will, but thouself.

Free will, gods tree of knowledge

Maybe gods people are gardeners

Plants release phytoncides into the air that keep you healthy.
Same green color in the eye promotes Irie
Mud and soil has chemical that makes you healthy too

Row fisherman row

Messenger: Kiwiman Sent: 5/11/2020 9:56:39 AM

Jah is the creator
and the destroyer
how can that not be
'Its not all bad?'

For something new to be born
something old must die

We will all get old and die
of disease

I wonder what disease I want to die from?
Prolly worn out heart is a good one

Messenger: The BANNED — Hemphill Sent: 5/11/2020 10:04:33 AM

A Johnson & Johnson executive said the company’s goal is to deliver 1 billion doses of coronavirus vaccine next year.

The company’s chief scientific officer Paul Stoffels joined ABC’s This Week to explain that Johnson & Johnson is increasing its manufacturing and preparing for clinical trials in September, and hopes to start developing the vaccines at the end of the year.
“We are upscaling manufacturing, and we start producing in the late year with the aim to deliver 1 billion vaccines next year,” he said Sunday.

Dr. Paul Stoffels, Johnson & Johnson chief scientific officer, says COVID-19 is spreading "so fast" around the world and it won’t pass without a vaccine.

Clinical trials begin in September with “the aim to deliver 1 billion vaccines next year,"

Also, Biden and other democrats have extremely exaggerated the death toll, one, Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy, even said COVID-19 has killed 70 Million Americans.
‘Over 600,000 dead': Biden adds extra zero to US coronavirus death toll

With Democrats exaggeration of the death toll and call for a billion to be vaccinated, and Bill Gates patent for tracking devices in said vaccines, and Benjamin Netanyahu suggesting microchipping kids, I see the agenda perfectly clear.

Messenger: Jahcub I Sent: 5/11/2020 10:11:00 AM

"Whether it's only 97% or not, people are dying, its callous to be dismissive of this, when we know that if someone we care about gets sick we won't care about the statistics, we'll be upset that they're sick, and wondering what could have been done to prevent it."

When we take into account all the people that have been infected with covid; it's even more than 97% survive it, more like over 99% of people survive it.

I never dismissed the fact that people are dying.I just don't think a massive quarantine is the answer. And if it is it the answer; then are we going to quarantine every flu season? As there will be people dying.

Messenger: Kiwiman Sent: 5/11/2020 10:21:51 AM

Many more people dying from Babylon...
1 Heart Disease
2 Stroke
3 Cancer
4 Medical error

But animal products take out the podium

Messenger: SunofMan Sent: 5/11/2020 11:22:43 AM

"I just can’t help but wonder: If Jah was to come and speak on this situation, saying BE STILL (not to be confused with no movement, but to go about life normally and naturally), FEAR NOT, that the ones here so obsessed with the media’s perspective and talking points would 1: say this Jah has “questionable credentials” and 2: insist that this is so dangerous and scary that we NEED the lockdown and vaccine and government control to stop this in the future."

The largest part of the problem here is that you believe in a mythical being that would actually come and give you advice. "Be still" and "Fear not" (little king Jamesian no?), and coming from the one who posts media perspective and talking points constantly (you do know you're glued to the internet right; all your videos and links don't magically manifest themselves, they are brought up because you are obsessed with their perspective, nice try though...wait, who's your "God" talking to?) As for questionable credentials....yes, the mythical being that lives in your imagination has questionable say the least. Thanks for the comic relief, sincerely.

As for the lock down, yes it feels excessive. The government appears very torn between, "do we exercise extreme caution and save lives?" or "do we roll the dice, try to make everyone happy, get the economy back on it's feet, and risk the chance of a lot more people getting sick?" You can say that choice two is the one you'd make, but tell that to the families of the 60,000+. What I'm failing to see is how this is some orchestrated plot to control people, because how is crippling the economy and creating massive public frustration helping anybody in power? (I'm not entirely dismissive of the idea that there is some strange play going on here, but I haven't heard a logical theory).

Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 5/11/2020 12:23:40 PM

Jessep, thank you.

That was 100% truth and factual information right there.

Just because there is a disease doesn't mean it was created by the government. Creating diseases that don't exist would fall under the heading of "biological warfare" and if that was being done (in violation of the 1975 BWC) it would be handled by the military and require top security clearance. You're not going to find out about it on youtube. And let me be perfectly blunt for a second. If covid was a biological weapon it would completely suck as weapon.

When Europeans first came to the Americas they had been exposed to viruses that the natives hadn't. That means they were carriers and had antibodies for the stuff they were carrying. This was before there was ever any government to speak of. This is just what happens which is part of the reason why you're not supposed to cross borders with certain plants or animals. Because you can damage the ecosystem you're going into.

Real biological weapons... as in when people are actually trying to kill each other with germs... don't take a week and rely on you having pre-existing health issues. I'm talking about stuff like anthrax or ricin (technically a chemical weapon). An amount of ricin about the size of a few grains of table salt can kill an adult human. While anthrax can take a while to kill you, you can get vaccinated for it which makes it less effective as a weapon. Developing anthrax programs now would be like going to war with bows and arrows. Point is, when governments pour money into programs to kill people they're looking for potency and efficiency.

Not to mention, no one has really come up with a good reason why governments would decimate their own economies in order to kill their own people with a weapon that could eventually get back to them when they don't even have a cure yet.

In reality, diseases are not new. The existence of COVID-19 is not Donald Trump's fault. He didn't make it. He didn't want it. So our response shouldn't be about where it came from but rather how to keep our fellow Americans safe and try to prevent transmission so that it gets to less people. We're at over 80,000 deaths already in the US.

And when I first started talking about this I said the transmission was the worst part. This page compares influenza with corona in terms of transmission so you can see the problem and why it should be taken more seriously.

This is why the death toll for covid is much higher than that of flu. Period. It's not covid is more powerful. Everything isn't about muscle. Covid's power is in its ability to transmit from person to person. When more people are infected, even if most people who contract it wont die, it's still going to kill more people because its going to spread faster and eventually get to people who are more at risk. Even though people get on my nerves sometimes, I still love humanity. And even if I'm not too concerned about myself dying from it, the threat is real for many others around me and around all of us. It's not just about you. It's not just about how healthy you are and how you still want to have fun and go to large gathering events. I do too. But it's not worth the risk of killing other people with this virus.

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