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Messenger: The BANNED -- Hemphill Sent: 10/7/2019 2:04:32 PM

This was already a posted topic, but -- surprise surprise -- it was banned and disappeared from the site..

Any way, China is still at it..

COMMUNIST CHINA -- Sterilization, forced abortion, organ harvesting, and genocide

Concentration Camp Survivors: China Using Forced Sterilization, Abortion for Genocide


Women who have survived China’s concentration camps for Muslim ethnic minorities reported widespread rape, forced abortions, forced sterilization, and other extreme sexual human rights atrocities in accounts published this weekend.

Speaking to the Washington Post, the women echo the experiences of others who have escaped the estimated thousands of concentration camps built in Xinjiang, China’s largest and westernmost province, to house Uighur, Kazakh, and Kyrgyz ethnic people. While survivors tend to be Kazakh – they can use their dual citizenship to escape to neighboring Kazakhstan – the majority of the 1 to 3 million people trapped in the camps are believed to be Uighurs. Others who have survived have been able to use their marital status to citizens of Pakistan or other neighboring countries to place pressure on Beijing to release them.

The nations themselves have not made any official statements condemning the Communist Party’s attempt to eradicate ethnic minorities in Xinjiang – sometimes actively praising it – but have quietly helped individuals with the influence to get their attention.

Camp survivors have previously testified to extreme torture, killings, live organ harvesting, infanticide, and slavery in the camps. An Associated Press (AP) report published last year revealed that some clothes made in slave facilities in the concentration camps made its way to America.

“Any woman or man under age 35 was raped and sexually abused,” Ruqiye Perhat, a student arrested in Xinjiang in 2009 for four years, told the Post. More recent survivors say that the camps had made rape more systematic than in regular prisons; guards would “put bags on the heads of the ones they wanted” and take the women out of their cells to be raped all night, returned for their fellow prisoners to see in the morning. One human rights activist told the Post they had documented at least seven cases of women being forced against their will to receive intrauterine devices as part of their entering the concentration camp, presumably to keep them from getting pregnant through rape.

Those who were arrested while pregnant – often for “crimes” like downloading the messaging application WhatsApp – were forced into harrowing abortions.

Gulzira Mogdyn told the Post that Chinese regime officials slashed her open without anesthesia and “cut my fetus out.”

The Washington Post testimonies echo those of other survivors who have endured sexual human rights violations and the killing of their unborn children. Many have also stated that the Chinese officials violated their bodily integrity in other ways, such as conducting medical examinations to prepare them for organ harvesting.

Mihrigul Tursun, a camp survivor, testified last year that Chinese authorities killed one of her infant triplets upon imprisoning her. The death occurred while the children were with Chinese authorities, forcibly taken for her. She told reporters she believes the child died of force-feeding.

An unnamed Kazakh concentration camp survivor testified to forced birth control accompanying the systematic use of rape to torture women at the camps.

“Young girls are taken out and raped all night long. If you keep resisting, they will inject you with something and kill you,” the woman told the Epoch Times. “There are usually 40 to 50 people in one small room, but five to 10 are regularly taken out and they just disappear—they never come back. People are being killed in tens all the time.”

Speaking to Radio Free Asia (RFA) last month, Zumuret Dawut described her forced sterilization in a concentration camp. Dawut escaped because her husband, a Pakistani national, petitioned his government to intervene.

“The family planning office gave me a letter and said: ‘Come back on the date stated in the letter and we will offer you a free operation to stop you from becoming pregnant,'” she told the outlet. “On hearing this my husband pleaded, ‘Does she have to undergo this procedure?’ … They said, ‘If you don’t comply it will effect your entry back into the country in the future, also your children’s schooling.’”

“On the day of my operation, I was taken inside the operating room, all I remember was that I was given an infusion. When I opened my eyes … There was no medical staff, doctors or nurses It was a very cold day, and I was covered with only a thin bed sheet,” she noted. “No one was allowed to visit from outside. When I looked around I heard other women moaning from pain. Once the effect of the anaesthetic wore off, I felt a sharp pain in my lower abdominal.”

Dawut added that, in the camp, she was forced to strip naked in front of multiple male officers and forced to take drugs that made her “[become] numb emotionally” and prevented her menstrual cycle from naturally taking place.

She also underwent organ testing to see if doctors could harvest them for profit, she said.

Human rights activists, journalists, and whistleblowers have testified for years to China’s policy of cutting open political prisoners to extract their organs while alive, without anesthesia, and sell them to willing buyers. Speculation first arose when observers noted that the number of organ transplants conducted in China was far greater than the official existing list of organ donors, leaving unclear how the remaining transplants were conducted without organs.

In 2014, Enver Tothi testified to cutting organs out of a live political prisoner in Urumqi, the Xinjiang capital. Tohti told the China Tribunal – a coalition of international legal experts investigating the Xinjiang camps – that he believed China was preparing to conduct these operations on Uighurs and others imprisoned in Xinjiang.

China has traditionally reserved the torturous operation for use on practitioners of Falun Gong, a spiritual movement that it considers a dangerous anti-communist cult.

Jewher Ilham, daughter of imprisoned Uighur scholar Ilham Tohti, similarly accused China of live organ harvesting against her people in July.

“They harvest prisoners’ organs for sale. At the airport, there is now a fast track security lane for organs to pass,” she said.

The Washington Post noted that activists have called these practices “genocide.” The official international legal definition of genocide lists “imposing measures intended to prevent births” on a “national, ethnic, racial, or religious group … to bring about its physical destruction.”

The issue of genocide in China came to the forefront of the sports world on Sunday evening when the NBA forced Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey to effusively apologize to the communist regime for posting a mild statement of support for anti-communist protests in Hong Kong on social media. The NBA itself also apologized to China, triggering a stern response from the World Uyghur Congress, an international organization fighting for human rights in Xinjiang and elsewhere.

“The NBA has a dismal record of silence & self-censorship on Human Rights in China,” the World Uyghur Congress said in a statement on Twitter, noting that the NBA established a training camp in Xinjiang that profits the communist regime without challenging the existence of concentration camps there. “The NBA’s willingness to appease China & overlook its abhorrent behaviour contradicts the core values & business standards it claims to espouse,” the organization observed.

Messenger: The Nomad Sent: 10/7/2019 7:50:26 PM

Again, a copy paste from Infowars or somewhere similar. Hemphill, this really makes me feel tired when you do this as I'm not interested in other journalists points of view, I'm interested in yours. Can you not just put up your opinion of what you're trying to say and then a link to some proof of source of your learning?

It would make your opinions easier to read.

Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 10/8/2019 12:09:03 PM

I'm not sure if Hemphill truly understands what propaganda is or how people are able to see through it to what motivates it. Do the authors truly care about Chinese people? Or is the purpose to demonize communism because China uses a different form of economic strategy that they, as capitalists, are afraid of?

If anyone is being honest with themselves would these articles exist if it wasn't for people like Bernie Sanders who aren't advocating pure capitalism? We don't have pure capitalism. We already have social programs. Medicare is not a capitalistic program. People on the right are simply afraid of the costs. They'll go to war because they like it when defense contractors make money. But they don't want the cost of helping people survive because they can't profit from it.

Someone getting raped has nothing to do with communism. But if you want to go there, was America communist or socialist when there was slavery? What about Jim Crow? What about the Trail of Tears under Andrew Jackson, Trump's favorite president? What about what's going on right now in the US with kids in cages and Trump getting his people to see how much it would cost to fill a border moat with snakes and alligator? Evil and corruption doesn't belong to one party or economic model.

Messenger: The BANNED -- Hemphill Sent: 10/8/2019 12:29:31 PM

Spoken like a true communist.. Never mind the fact that China has killed over 100 million in the name of communism and enslaved millions more, or currently taking over Africa, no no, thats just propaganda by 'afraid white people'.


Messenger: The BANNED -- Hemphill Sent: 10/8/2019 6:01:23 PM


“If Hong Kong falls, the whole world falls”

Hong Kong Protester's Message - Communist China Mankind's Greatest Threat

“The world should know, if Hong Kong falls, the whole world falls, okay?” said a Hong Kong protester in a video now going viral.

The clip begins with an older man explaining to the camera how “the police force in Hong Kong is completely under the command of the Chinese communist party.”

“Hong Kong, we are fighting for our freedom and survival, okay?” the demonstrator continues.

“And the world should know, if Hong Kong falls, the whole world falls, okay?” he chillingly warns. “Because the Chinese communist party is the existential risk of humanity, period.”

Messenger: The BANNED -- Hemphill Sent: 10/9/2019 3:10:50 AM


Social credit tyranny accelerates.

Chinese Citizens Will Need to Pass Facial Recognition Test to Use the Internet
Chinese citizens will be forced to pass a facial recognition test to use the Internet in the latest expansion of the country’s draconian social credit score system.

“At present, a Chinese citizen will need to show his or her ID card while applying for a landline or the internet,” reports the Daily Mail. “The facial-recognition test is set to verify that the ID card belongs to the applicant.”

Under its social credit score system, China punishes people who criticize the government, as well as numerous other behaviors, including;

– Bad driving.
– Smoking on trains.
– Buying too many video games.
– Buying too much junk food.
– Buying too much alcohol.
– Calling a friend who has a low credit score .
– Having a friend online who has a low credit score.
– Posting “fake news” online.
– Visiting unauthorized websites.
– Walking your dog without a leash.
– Letting your dog bark too much.

Back in August, the Communist state bragged about how it had prevented 2.5 million “discredited entities” from purchasing plane tickets and 90,000 people from buying high speed train tickets in the month of July alone.

People in the west are already being banned by entire websites and services due to their opinions.

Given that Silicon Valley has aided China in helping develop its social credit system, how long before they’re banned from using the Internet altogether?

Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 10/9/2019 1:04:33 PM

There you go with the lies again. I'm not a communist. Man you love labels, don't you?

How many people has America killed? Rough estimate. I'll wait.

And don't tell me "but that wasn't in the name of capitalism"

Messenger: The BANNED -- Hemphill Sent: 10/9/2019 11:32:08 AM


Woke corporate America’s stunning hypocrisy.

The same ‘woke’ corporations who virtue signal all day long about caring for minorities immediately cave and apologize when China – one of the biggest human rights abusers on the planet – intimidates them.

Communist China says jump, corporate America says how high.


ESPN’s commentators were entirely unrestrained when attacking North Carolina for being “homophobic” and “transphobic.”

ESPN Caves to China, Silences Hosts on Hong Kong Protests

ESPN warned hosts to avoid any political discussion of the relationship between China and Hong Kong, as the NBA continues trying to make amends with the communist nation after Rockets GM Daryl Morey tweeted support for Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement on Friday.

According to a report from Deadspin, ESPN’s Senior News Director Chuck Salituro sent a memo to all staffers telling them to avoid talking about the political situation between Hong Kong and mainland China. Deadspin was also told that senior ESPN executives were monitoring all shows as they discussed the news of the day.

ESPN’s reticence to talk about the massive and endemic human rights violations stands in stark contrast to the network’s all-out support for the NBA’s boycott of North Carolina because of the Tar Heel State’s transgender bathroom law.

ESPN’s commentators were entirely unrestrained when attacking North Carolina for being “homophobic” and “transphobic.”

In March of 2017 for instance, ESPN host Rachel Nichols insisted that North Carolina’s law aimed at keeping children and women safe in public washrooms was somehow just like the “lunch counter” protests during the Civil Rights era. That same month, Nichols also openly advised the NBA to boycott North Carolina.

Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 10/11/2019 6:43:09 AM

You don't seem to think on a deeper level.

While Americans are unsettled by the influence of China, businesses don't make decisions based on political leanings, but rather profits. China controls access to its citizens which it is willing to block. That is a billion consumers you can get blocked from reaching.

What's wrong? I thought you liked capitalism? This IS capitalism.

And when will people like you stop acting like we don't owe them money? And like they don't make over 50% of our products?

Messenger: The Nomad Sent: 10/12/2019 7:35:41 PM

But, when will China stop illegally devaluing their currency for their own gains, claiming they are a developing country to ease tax tarrifs to accommodate their low paid workers - when all the while, they are replicating western technology and marketing it back to the west, at a quarter of the price but keeping Chinese capitalist businessmen billionaires and not investing the monies back into Chinas own infrastructure?

We can start with that. On this occasion, I'm with Trump.

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