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Messenger: Joseph I Sent: 12/20/2015 9:54:55 PM

Voodooruuts Sent: Today 8:07:36 PM


What is sin?

A Lion follows the pride as a cub as adolescent he ventures out as a Lion he finds his own pride!

Sin is described in the Bible as transgression of the law of God.
It's your right if you choose to see things from that perspective, but narrow and straight is the road to Zion, there's only one way to get there.

Messenger: Voodooruuts Sent: 12/20/2015 9:59:08 PM

Oona mussa know seh weh oona come from fuh know weh oona da gwine!


If u trod bible trod bible dnt tell InI we must trod bible
Man make bible bible never make man

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 12/20/2015 10:13:39 PM

Regarding the quote about the example of Christ. The example of Christ is the example of Righteousness, which is the example of God. If people Live in Righteousness, they are acceptable unto the Most High, with or without the Bible.

Don't make diplomatic excuses for Haile Selassie I. He loves and accepts people of other religions because he is God and shows the example of God. He is not pretending because He is a diplomat.

You accuse others of only accepting certain things Haile Selassie I say but you do the same.

Messenger: Joseph I Sent: 12/20/2015 10:36:33 PM

Indeed, there is not a righteous man on earth who continually does good and who never sins. Ecclesiastes 7:20
Without Yeshua, there's no entrance into Zion, because none of us are righteous.
Selassie loves and accepts all people regardless of their faith because He was a Christian who worshipped Yeshua and followed His teachings.
I accept everything that I've read Selassie say. I never said that He was pretending, that would be deceptive. There's no excuses, it's factual.
Also, just because I read and follow the Bible as Selassie I did, doesn't mean I'm religious. I have a relationship with the Creator. If you don't want to read the bible, I can't see why, especially when Selassie says that you should. But, it's your right and your choice. Yet as Selassie would urge you to accept Christ for salvation, I urge you to do the same. We're all brothers and sisters that's why I care for your entrance into Zion.

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 12/21/2015 12:20:23 AM

Which does the I feel is more important? Sighting His Majesty as Jah?
Or guaranteed salvation?

Sighting Haile Selassie I RasTafarI Almighty I, Greatest I, as Jah, God of Gods. That was the Beginning and Itinuation of I Itinuing and Growing Salvation.

You think a book written by one small set of people will guarantee you salvation? Out of all of history, only this one small group has figured out the guarantee of salvation, while all others in the world are lost, unless they learn to accept everything in this guarantee book without question, and grow and develop a fear of this book within themself. A fear of a book that makes them afraid of a lake of fire for even questioning this guarantee book.

I and I are not ruled by any book. I have Learned the Good within the Bible and have refused the wickedness. Righteousness is Salvation, Godliness is Salvation.

Most people have enough sense to be cautious and doubtful if a person approaches them and tells them "listen and do everything I say without question, or you will be damned with no chance of salvation." That would usually raise a red flag in their brain and they would not follow that person or believe their threat.

But, package it up into a book, and have the book instill that irrational damnation fear, then all of a sudden, it seems more believable to some, especially being raised in a good old Christian fear mongering home.

Whether RasTafarI people use or don't use the Bible, I and I don't base our Trod on the Christianity our parents were taught, and are not dependant on the Bible. I and I Trod has always had many Ways that were not based on the Bible or any other book, and Ways that no book could possibly teach. The Bible is a tool some of I and I use, not I and I ruler.

Messenger: Joseph I Sent: 12/21/2015 12:57:24 AM

"unless he accepts with clear conscience the Bible and its great message, he cannot hope for salvation. For my part I glory in the Bible."

I do believe Selassie I when He says the bible is the only hope for salvation.
If you believe He's Jah why don't you believe what He says?

Yeshua spoke of Himself saying "no man can come to the father but by Me."
Selassie did not. Selassie said -
"It is quite true that there is no perfection in humanity. From time to time we make mistakes, we do commit sins but even as we do that, deep in our hearts as Christians we know we have forgiveness from the Almighty. He taught us all who seek Him shall Find Him. To live in this healthy life, a Christian life, is what makes me follow Jesus Christ."

So you pick and choose what to accept from Selassie, and also pick and choose what to accept from the bible.
Wouldn't a true rasta accept everything Selassie said & because Selassie loved the bible, so should I & I?

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 12/21/2015 2:10:19 AM

Haile Selassie I says

No one is today so foolish as to believe that any one nation constitutes a perfect monolith of faith and ideology. Nor could anyone wish that there should be such utter vanity of thought and aspiration.

unless he accepts with clear conscience the Bible and its great message, he cannot hope for salvation. For my part I glory in the Bible

As I said, I have Learned the Good in the Bible and have refused the wickedness, meaning I have accepted the Great message of the Bible with a clear conscience, no guilt. If instead of refusing, I accepted the wicked parts, including those parts misrepresented as just, then I conscience would not be clear.

Highest of High. God of Gods.
Haile I Selassie I RasTafarI

Radhakrishan Receives Degree From H.S.I.U.
Wednesday, October 13, 1965

The Lion of Judah has prevailed
Haile Selassie I, Elect of God
King of Kings of Ethiopia

On the occasion of Your Excellency's visit to Our country it gives Us special pleasure to receive you at this institution itself dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge and truth. It is altogether fitting that Your Excellency should be the focus of this occasion, for Your Excellency has yourself since your youth been dedicated to that cause. Your marked achievement to the august rank of Professor at the youthful age of twenty-eight, your consistent endeavour to pursue knowledge and the numerous books that have flowed from your pen, to this bear witness.

Today more than ever before man realizes the bond of unity that exists within the race; he is endeavouring to employ the accumulated knowledge and wisdom of the ages. He is employing modern science and technology; he is reaping the benefits, however limited, of political and economic unity; and to that extent, he is transcending the age-old barriers that have divided the race so long and is endeavouring to reflect on the welfare not only of himself and his immediate neighbour but also on the welfare of all the human race. This endeavour is in harmony with the spirit of the mystics of ages gone by (the following is Haile Selassie quoting Radhakrishan)" the mystic traditions of the different religions we have a remarkable unity of the spirit. Whatever religions they may profess they are spiritual kinsmen. While the different religions in their historical forms bind us to limited groups and militate against the development of loyalty to the world community, the mystics have always stood for the fellowship of humanity," so Your Excellency has taught us. And in an effort to carry out this teaching to pursue truth - to promote those bonds common to the human race - Your Excellency has dedicated your whole life. To free the human race from superstition and fear that originate from ignorance; to enable him to transcend the apparent obstacles of race and religion; and to help him recognize the blood-ties of the whole human race, Your Excellency has laboured. To this generation, so tormented between modern knowledge and ancient faith, your scrupulous studies have pointed the way by which man may be saved from traditional superstition and modern scepticism.

Were the thoughts of Plato and Socrates, the beliefs of Christianity and Judaism not harmonized with Hindu philosophy; were Yoga and its various stages not exposed to Western thought; had Western religion and philosophy not been exposed to the philosophy and religion of the East through Your Excellency's persistent endeavour, how much the poorer would human thought have been!

In the history of the human race, those periods which later appeared as great have been the periods when the men and the women belonging to them had transcended the differences that divided them and had recognized in their membership in the human race a common bond. Your Excellency's constant endeavour to challenge this generation to transcend its differences. to recognize its common bond and to work towards a common goal has doubtless made this age pregnant with greatness.
It is, therefore, in recognition of these labours that We, with unequalled pleasure, bestow upon Your Excellency the degree of Doctor of Letters, honoris causa.

Messenger: RastaGoddess Sent: 12/21/2015 5:05:26 AM

New Faculty of Interpretation 

By: Mutabaruka 

Is the bible the Word of God? Most reggae musicians - Rastafarian or otherwise - accept that it is. Like any other Jamaicans, we were all taught to believe that there was no teaching of morality or history outside of the bible. In writing this article, I am aware that it might go against the perception of you, the reader. May you keep an open, searching mind as you continue reading my reasonings. 

When Rastafarians began the quest to find Self, the only book that was available to us was the bible and so the totality of what we understood to be true was based primarily on interpretation of this book. Even the idea of Haile Selassie as an afrikan God was justified and validated by the bible. We, as afrikan people brought here from afrika under inhumane conditions, were forced to live - even now - without any kind of identity. This was also justified through the bible by the European invaders and those afrikans who sought to rationalize this enslavement by declaring that this was an Act of God. The influence of this book runs deep. Over the years, Rastafarians declare themselves to be Israelites as referred to in the Old Testament, so that words and phrases such as Zion, Promised Land, the wicked Pharaoh and Jah became part of the language of the Rastafarian movement. 

What I am really trying to say here, is that our own religious knowledge goes back no further than the 6,000 year history presented by this bible, (from Genesis to the beginning of this century, according to the bible, is 6,000 years). History and archeological evidence prove Ethiopia and Egypt existed thousands of years beyond that - much, much more than a mere 6,000 years. 

Rastafarians have been very influential because of our music and cultural practices. For Rastafarians to move forward in this time, we will have to go beyond the bible, we can no longer continue to justify Haile Selassie's divinity through the Davidic link. Ethiopia existed thousands of years before Abraham walked out of the Ur of the Chaldees. Even Egypt, which as been demonized by the authors of the Old Testament, existed thousands of years before Israel. 

We can not continue to close out other information that is not in line with the bible. The bible is just one set of peoples' understanding of human behavior and personality. The events recorded in the bible are on the periphery of afrikan knowledge. Stories recorded in the bible have their genesis in other indigenous people's folk tales. What we are taking as history is other people's mythology. 

In Ethiopia, whether by design or accident, the Church has not gone beyond the story of Solomon and Sheba to justify Ethiopia's presence in history. We can clearly see that there was a deliberate attempt to erase the feminine representation of Ethiopia's personality and this resulted in a rise in a system of patriarchy that was very alien to afrikan culture. One would conclude that Ethiopia's religious beginning starts with the union of Makeda and Solomon, but the only information received about Makeda is that she worshiped the sun and that she conceived for Solomon. The significance of the Queen of Sheba's visit to Solomon is very important in validating Ethiopia's link with a Jewish heritage because this is used to substantiate Ethiopia's true monarchy and also the Godhead linkage. 

A return to the feminine principle is very important in the unraveling of our ancient spirituality. What we have professed has helped us so far, but it's up to us to now move it further. We can no longer be like Christian fundamentalists - or Islamic fundamentalists for that matter - who are stuck in a history that does not provide them with an understanding of new thoughts and new life styles. We are living in a new era of information - a time when one can travel from London to New York in three hours, when one can click a switch and illuminate a stadium filled with thousands of people, a time when a person committing a crime in one part of the world can be viewed instantaneously in another through modern technology. This is the age of information, but inspiration without information sometimes leads to superstition. 

Given what I know now, I refuse to accept this limited view of Ethiopia and its contribution to world spirituality because this view has stagnated our concept of religion in afrika and how we relate to other cultures. I refuse to keep validating my perception of the divinity of Haile Selassie through an Israelite god. Ideas of emperors being gods existed long before the presence of the Israelites in Egypt. We, as Rastafarians, can find the essence of our spirituality in an Ethiopia and Egypt void of Israelite interpretation. 

We are the creators of our destiny, we are the shapers of our future and our spirituality must reflect this new faculty of interpretation. We must not be afraid of the deep. Rastafari can only continue if we who profess this faith, understand that afrikan philosophy and afrikan spirituality cannot be bound into any book. 

Our need to understand each other and our environment is very crucial in the rationalization of our existence. This can only be realized through clarity of perception. Religion does not offer clarity. What religion offers is a perception and this perception comes through belief. This belief comes through faith and, as we know, faith is not knowledge. Faith is what we would like our perception to be or not to be. Haile Selassie declares, "We must not confuse Spirituality with Religion." Rastafari must not be bound by religious perceptions because this will cause stagnation of the movement and thereby create fundamentalism. We must be open to the different cultures of afrika and not demonize them because of biblical interpretations. 

The journey is never-ending and the race is not for the swift. There are many rivers to cross and so much trouble in the world. We will have to wake up and live! Rastafari must continue to rock the boat with a new faculty of interpretation 

Messenger: RastaGoddess Sent: 12/21/2015 5:32:36 AM

To each his/her own. There are many paths that lead ones and ones to the same destination. Universal Truths and Natural Laws are not LIMITED to one book, one man or one teaching, for both "Jesus" and His Majesty were well versed in the esoteric and metaphysical teachings and wisdom of Kemet.

What I find hypocritical are those who preach that Rasta MUST "glory in the bible" because HIM did, yet conveniently and selectively choose to ignore many other traditions that HIM followed. Are those bible totting Rastas also well versed in Masonic teachings? No? Against the teachings of "Christ" you say? What about Astrology and traditional afrikan spiritual systems? Not part of the bible you say?

Ironically, they were good enough for HIM...

If ones and ones insist on following HIM perfect example, then why be selective? Why ignore that which doesn't suit your "christian" sensabilities? Why not join the EOC? Why not get in the trenches with gun in hand? Why not eat beef? Why not keep lions as pets? Why not become involved in international politics? Why not become a mason? Why not learn Ge'ez? Why not venerate Mary? Why not do Pan African works for the OAU? Why ignore the Teachings and Traditions of the School of Ori/Anu?

The true "sin" is judgement based out of ignorance. The true sin is to view Ethiopia and the original African foundations of KRST from behind blue eyes and appropriate western perspective to an African system.

Messenger: RastaGoddess Sent: 12/21/2015 5:54:53 AM

Who is Ori? When HIM proclaimed to the world that "I AM ORI", who and what was he referring to?

Who is "Arko the Wise"?

When was the last time you equally glorified in the Gospel of Myriam?

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