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Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/9/2019 9:40:24 PM
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There is no anger or malice in my heart Nesta you are not qualified to diagnose or psycho analyse I.

Look at these Dread sympathizer who don't realise black power and anti-bible will always be a part of this trod by conscious and righteous Rastafari of new and old whether this website agree or not.

And here we have a thread to discuss bible topics which likeminded Rastafari disagree with or question

Away with your ginalship


Messenger: RasTafarIWork Sent: 3/9/2019 10:34:38 PM
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2 Peter 2:18-19
For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage.
Cool, G.A, am a Dread sympathizer. I follow Selassie I to the fullest, even His Reasoning.
But you, are like "away with your..." "guweh" "you need to..." "we dont need..." "I dont need...." "Many RASTA like I....." ...what a joke.
Only a fool or impostor will honour Selassie I then for the Iself burn JC and Bible.


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 3/9/2019 10:59:53 PM
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G.A. there is no need to psychoanalyze. So many of your utterances just exude anger and hateDread in and of themslelves. If it's true that there's no anger or malice in your heart, then all I'm doing is making you aware of the fact that you communication style is failing you inasmuch as it sends a loud, clear massages of hostility, resentment and intolerance. If that is indeed not what you intend to communicate, then you can use this feedback to alter your communication style to achieve the communication of what you really mean to say.

For example, in this thread "burn JC and burn Bible" throws out the baby with the bathwater and is a decidedly deliberate affront to every person who holds the teachings of Christ dear. If your problem is with how Christianity has been misused and abused throughout history (and still is today), then a more articulate and nuanced approach to communicating that would avoid stepping on the cherished wisdom in which many people find solace and sound counsel. To someone stepping into this thread, you appear to be disparaging people who follow the teachings of Christ (including H.I.M.) along with Christ Himself and the book in which His Teachings are presented. You language appears to be designed to offend.

It's clear to me that you write deliberately broad, blunt provocative statements and only later (sometimes) provide clarification that refines those a bit. What is the need to foment such discord if you are not angry and trying to do so? Why make such dismissive remarks like "Away with your ginalship" if you are not, indeed, hostile? In so much of what you write there is a disrespectfulness and immature bravado that belies a youthful rebelliousness intent upon creating a sensation for the sake of ego.

Such a style of antagonism imparts a kind of bathos to this whole forum.



Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 12:14:54 AM
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Sizzla Kalonji

"Dash a fire on Jesus Christ"


Burn Jesus Christ and Burn the Bible.


I don't mis speak. What a Wicked detriment to black people. To I Maafa. Better Dem dash Jesus in the toilet with Nesta and RastafariWorks sense of needing to correct I.

People with no Rastafari elders or history a tell I what should or should t be a valid part of I trod. Only on this website....

Rastafari


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 12:29:20 AM
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I soon get back to topics of the Bible and away from this foolish talk of whether I right or wrong or valid or invalid or communicate good or bad.

Lol

Who the hell Dem think they are I don't know Rasta....


Time to ignore who a play fool fe ketch wise and just forward in reason.... of one of the most successful engaging balanced and counterbalanced threads of this websites history. Before de I come along...

Garvey


Messenger: RasTafarIWork Sent: 3/10/2019 12:39:10 AM
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Only a fool or impostor will claim to honour Selassie I then for the Iself burn JC and Bible.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 12:40:23 AM
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Then I must be both
.ignoring the fact you Honor your parents yet share a different belief system.


But I'm the fool


I must be as I said i was done with you


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 12:46:16 AM
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Some 5 year old wordsound before the ginalship:





Perhaps Ethiopia of the 1930s, a Country adherent to the Bible / Christianity for almost 2000 years, was not yet appropriate to make a full change. What would be the point of a spiritual revolution which doesn't benefit ones immediate life situation - as sociopolitical tool. I believe Christianity was necessary asa national religion (if one is to have a religion) of Ethiopia circa 1930-1970.
And one must not forget, Christianity in Ethiopia is a whole different concept / practice when compared to any other Western overstanding of Christianity.
- For example many people believe the Bible is written as to subject 'believers' to conformity to the local Government (from Roman times). Now imagine the Government is not a wicked babylonian government as in the West- But the Government is one of Ethiopia itself. This has its advantages.....What I am saying as the Bible is a sociopolitical TOOL which has always been used to give Subjects a religion to 'believe in' while the underlying theme promotes the subjected rule governing power. Christianity in the West promotes Western Culture. Christianity inna Rome promoted the Roman Empire / Emporer. As it was as it shall be, Christianity in Ethiopia (with its Black kings queens and prophets in all of their glory) shall promote the governing body of Ethiopia. 

That same sociopolitical tool is NOT of a benefit or use to InI here in the Western dispensation post slavery and colonial rule. And being a sociopolitical tool does not make it the truth, nor does it mean Haile saw it as anything else.

When I Rasta Burn the Bible, i do so in the name of Haile Selassie. The essence of Haile Selassie as the unconquerable pure essence of InI, that shall be the very driving force which leads to InI to put down this book and its confusion. My religious practice gives Isis to the Ancestors... and a that we a work with alone


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 12:46:29 AM
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This may not be true for the Ethiopians..... but for anybody in the West.....

I dont care how long you have had 'knowledge of self' or an overstanding of 'Yoshua'

When one is to think of CHRIST / THE SON OF GOD

The immediate brain-amygdalae-memory-response association through growing up in the West - will automatically conjure up a picture of MichaelAngelos uncle and the character of 'Jesus' as predefined by Rome. This is the initial image of Christ first exposed to our consciousness which we cannot help. And we cannot work with....... Burn JC in his entirity. If he was a real man it was Rome who declared him a God. Burn their interpretation. Ites up the Ancestors them who we know as Real. We dont know if Christ really feed 5000 with couple bread and fish? We do KNOW of the life of HIM. This is the difference.

I Rasta dont work with Son of God - No intermediate - No middle man between the I and Haile Selassie. Haile Selassie doesnt work through people, I man work with the direct connection. 
I Rasta wouldnt put ANY MAN - Yoshua included - Mohammed included - the whole a dem included - as higher than I and I. Them haven't been sent / are no more relation / are no closer or higher to the Almighty than I man Garveys Africa. A so I see it..... we dont deal with intermediary. Haile Selassie I a INI. A that we a work with....Dont bother mention no other Guy name.... Burn Yoshua - is HIM alone.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 3/10/2019 12:46:44 AM
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Messenger: zion mountainSent: 1/11/2014 7:41:40 PM
Well, Rasta is saying Haile Selassie
I. We nah come off of that. The
consciousness meaning that what
Haile Selassie did when he was Ras
Tafari and what he has done being
the Emperor of Ethiopia, we have
seen him shaping Africa. And we
can look on what he has done as
Rastas and see a certain Christ-ness
that is what we are searching for.
Not as we were taught it, because
first of all, to really understand
what the Rastaman is saying about
Haile Selassie, you haffe go move
Jesus out of your mind. This idea,
this Jesus concept that was given to
us by Rome. You have to totally
wipe it out and this God mentality,
this God-conciousness. You have to
move that out now and reshape it.
You have to look within man not in
the sky. And I think that is what a
whole heap of Jamaicans find
difficult. That when the Rastaman
say Haile Selassie, he is trying to
put what he sees in his mind about
God with what we is talking about
this Man. And not knowing that
what he sees in his mind is what is
in man. There is no other concept
outside of man. Is man make God. If
there was no man, there wouldn't
be any concept of God. So you have
to look within man to find the
reality of life and what life really
mean. So when man is him good,
him say is God, and when man is
him bad, him say is the devil, but is
really man still. So all concepts of
good and bad is coming from man
is emanate from man.#Elder Muta again


Messenger: zion mountainSent: 1/11/2014 7:53:56 PM
The Bible is to confuse you, but still
it is there to heal you. It is a book
written by men of old to express
their historical understanding of
life. But now you in this time would
have to look into it, and see what is
best suitable for your existence and
what is not. There is no way I'm
going to follow God in the Old
Testament and sacrifice animals
cause I love the scent of it. And if I
do something wrong, I'm going to
go out there and get so much
turtles and so much oxen and burn
them. That is primitive thinking.
But they say is God say it. I know
God nah have nuttin fe do with it. It
is man trump up all these thing. So
the god of Moses is not the god of
Christ, because Christ come and
deny everything weh them say him
say, 'you have heard that it was
said, but I say . . .' So him a show
you a higher thing now. But I live
inna dis time ya so now. Ya haffe
look pon now, wha dem a seh Jesus
say. What Paul say? Paul a try
gather up some numbers from the
Greeks and the Romans fe bring
them over to a Jewish form of
Christianity. Now, I am not a
Roman or a Greek, so a lot of letters
that Paul write to these people, the
Ephesians, the Romans, the
Corinthians. I wouldn't take it upon
myself and say is me, because I a
come from a different experience. I
a come from an African experience.
I come from five-hundred years of
colonialism and slavery. So I would
have to shape God within the
context of my life and how can God
work for me. I nah work for God.
How can God a go work for me?
Because is I going to create all of
this reality. So I create within my
reality a historical figure and a
historical person. That is Haile
Selassie. I can see how Haile
Selassie work for me, because I see
him work for Africa. And I see how
that linkage link the old with the
new and with the now. And I have
something to refer to without
thinking mythologically. Because
when I think pon Jesus, I haffe
think mythologically. When I think
pon Haile Selassie, I don't haffe
think mythologically#Muta again


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