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Messenger: Matthew Sent: 4/29/2012 6:19:16 AM

I have read a lot of posts lately and have reasoned with other ones in person regarding faith. To I faith without works is a religious thing, something pushed on the world by so called Christians and the like. If we want something enough and believe we can achieve it with faith and hard work it IS possible. To I faith, work, and determination, need to go together. Jah helps those who helps themselves. If it wasnt this way, what would be the point, we might as well stay in our houses at all times and pray to some sky God. This is what babywrong wants. If ones believe everythings down to faith then that makes Slavery, oppression, and corruption justifiable as it becomes our fault we are in the position we are in becouse we lacked the faith that we would be delivered from it, Overstand?

Look at the example set by Jah himself. Who worked and fought harder for the liberation, advancement, development, education and protection of his people than Jah RasTafarI? HIM told us that mental, physical, and spiritual wellbeing are of equal importance, and that Spiritual and material progress must be balanced.

Blessed Love

Messenger: Ras Kanjas Sent: 4/29/2012 6:51:13 AM

The idea of faith without works is bomboclat..!
It makes no sense..!
Fire burns that!
It's a Christian teaching...bomboclat!
Designed to mislead and promote slackness and hypocrisy!
Only hypocrites talk about faith without works.......but we speak of goods works and trust in Jah!

Raspect brethren..!

Messenger: bredren aaron Sent: 4/29/2012 7:55:58 AM

Faith and work must go together to acheive what ones want in life. Solomon had faith in the Most High but still physically built the house for the Ark which was built by man through faith. Every action has a reaction, we sit and pray to the Most High and in turn it gives us faith to do Jah works pon the earth. If we sit and pray and do nothing then you become stagnant,when doing Jah works he also teaches you how to use the elements to acheive what it is you are looking for. Faith+Work=Life.


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 5/6/2012 10:21:30 PM

Here is a Reasoning related to this.

I and I are to be One with Jah and One with Christ, not separate. But people would prefer to listen to the preacherman, or apostles, over the words of Christ. The sacrifice of Christ, was that he taught I and I Jah way, because he knew that he would have to sacrifice his body to teach I and I this, because he knew that babylon would crucify him for teaching the truth to the people. But he still showed I and I, he sacrificed himself for this. So when people forget his words and teachings, it is a disrespect to the sacrifice Christ gave in order to show I and I these words.

Christ said,
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

This is not a request, and Christ didn't say try to be so, but he said Be ye therefore perfect. And for people that think that the perfection is something less than this or that, Christ showed them, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. So this kind of perfection is the highest form of perfection there is.

The apostle Paul in some ways misleads the people by confusing them. Maybe he was trying to hide the truth so that only some will see, or maybe he was trying to mislead the people, and also inserting the truth, so the people could not speak against him. Only Jah knows this for sure, but the truth still can be seen in the words of Paul. The reason I say that his words are misleading is because he spends so much time sounding like he is saying that we are not required to live perfect, but are supposed to just repent and Christ will save us for our sins. And for only a couple of sentences he shows that the grace he is talking about doesn't make void the law (Law of Jah, not law of man), but the law is established.

Romans 3
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Some don't consider what he said above or the other things that he said to show the reality of righteousness, because they are so few in Paul's words. But some people do remember these words, but still don't require themselves to live in Jah way, they think that it will just happen one day when they die. But if people consider the words of Christ and read these words of Paul with Christ's teachings in mind, they will see the Truth. There is no law against righteousness, and if I and I are guided by Jah, then it is impossible to sin, so the law is of no effect for I and I. So by our choice, and the strength of Jah, I and I ways will be made perfect, because Jah will only guide I and I in perfection.

Galatians 5
13For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

I see this as saying when I and I walk in Jah Spirit, we will not sin

17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

So when I and I are led by the Spirit, I and I are not under the law because I and I are only walking in righteousness, because Jah Spirit would never guide I and I towards wickedness

Here are the works that are not of the Spirit. Laws do exist against these works, because they are sin

19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

The works of the flesh, which is called sin, include those things written above. It is not just the "big" sins like murder and others, but it also includes hatred, wrath, strife, envyings, drunkenness and revellings. So those that claim they are walking in the Spirit are only truly walking in the Spirit if they don't do these things. Otherwise, the most they could be doing is only partially walking in the Spirit.

Here are the fruits of the Spirit, which is called righteousness. No laws exist that are against these actions, so they are not under the law.

22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

So Christians have crucified the sinful part of theirself, and only walk in righteousness, because that is the only way Jah Spirit guides.

25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Selassie I also knew this, I have posted this before, but I will post it again.

When He sacrificed himself at Golgotha for the atonement of our sin, He prayed with His last breath for the forgiveness of those who had tortured Him saying, 'Father, forgive them for they know not what they do'.

Shame on those of us who are Christians and do not follow the way of the Savior of the World, whose life was filled with kindness, humility, and martyrdom! If we lived by the laws he gave us and were worthy of being called Christian, peace would have reigned on this earth.

Men were supposed to be the equals of the living angels who unceasingly sang praises before the eternal God. Had this been so, peoples of the world would not have been divided along lines of enmity.


Messenger: Ras Kanjas Sent: 5/7/2012 12:39:34 PM

blessed love Ark I;
me tell you what; you know the truth concerning Christ's sacrifice!
In other words, you have eaten enough wheat!

And this Saul whom you referred to as Apostle Paul;
Brethren, what is an apostle?
Could Saul be regarded as an apostle? If so, tell me any other apostle similar to him!
If he were an apostle, then he could have remained with saints like John who wrote Revelation, but he did that which was different!

I think i have to create a new topic on expose him to the truth which he hid.............don't you think so?

Messenger: Matthew Sent: 5/16/2012 5:10:45 PM

Yes I Ark I
They push death so much, die and go to heaven. Christ died for our sins ect. they breathing but spiritually dead. They want InI to look to salvation in the sky they try to hide the life teachings of christ from us, Christ didnt die for our sins he lived to show us a way to live with out sin. Look at the logo of the the church the cross a death symbol, they want InI to worship a wooden Idol rather than hail and live for the living Christ Jah RasTafarI. Ive read about them doing the same thing in the old testament.

RasTafarI Blessings

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