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Healing the nation???

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Messenger: Humble Rasta Sent: 3/24/2009 3:45:30 AM
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Hail blessed idrens!
InI was reasoning wit anada rastaman da ada day.
we were reasoning about the herb and I've been thinking about what he said since then.I would love to hear wat da I has to say about herbs.
Of course,da herb is meant to heal the nation-dat much InI know.what was interesting for me was when ini said dat even da herbs used by traditional doctors is still okay.I dont know about other countries but in my country (Botswana-Ifrica) there are a lot of traditional doctors(sangomas) from Malawi,Zambia,Uganda etc who have settled in Botswana.they 'claim' that they can heal a lot of diseases,protect da I from bad luck,protect your property,make da I do well in school etc.Now,Jahman said dat he believes in those 'herbs' and dat they do work as he consults traditional doctors a lot.I know dat rastafari use da herb(supposedly called Marijuana).I didnt think about ada herbs,such as those used by sangomas,being classified still as da 'rastafari herb'.
i dunno if Im making sense-I hope da I overstands wat Im trying to ask.I just wan fi know wat da I's thoughts are about this...
Menen I Selassie I Jah Rastafari Bless


Messenger: rootz Sent: 3/24/2009 4:17:20 AM
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bless humble one,

you know, 'countries' were irated by babylon fi separate us as ifricans. me nuh gaan fiddi nigerians, ghanaians, lybians klaat ting caah wi is rasta children caah wi ifrican children therefore dis a 'rastafari nation'. continental ithiopia. dem a go tell yuh seh 'political ithiopia' is da one just below sudan on da map but since i and i nuh deal widdem politriks dis a continental ithiopia. 'africa' is also a name dat was given to us therefore wi is ithiopians, seen? smile, child caah yuh is ithiopian.

tink bout word sound power den yuh hear dem seh 'cunt-ries'. fuckry..

i tend to digress..

i sight what da i is saying bout dem herb ting weh dem a use it deh ina 'ifrica'. ther're ways of using da herbs roun di ends weh dem a use it fi cure ailments ie da ginkgo biloba-i tink-, devil's claw etc etc but personally, i draw the line when it comes to casting spells! dats like sayin me cyan cast spell fi mek mi kingman aks fi marry me. yes ina rastafari too dem those who cast spell etc and dem call di place weh dem a do it, 'balmyards' if me remember right. herbs're used, yes, caah Jah give i di herb fi use it but H.I.M never gi i witchcraft ting.

I AND I,
ROOTSTAFARI


Messenger: Humble Rasta Sent: 3/26/2009 2:07:01 AM
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InI know dat Im Ithiopian.dont all rasta nations know dat?...

obviously Jah nah meant fi da herb fi be used to 'cast spells' (as da I puts it).
da herb (marijuana) is meant fi da rasta nation,yes.
so does dat mean dat da other 'concoctions' used by ada countries are classified as herbs,still?
dats da part dat confuses me.
I daan wan fi judge Jahman fi using herbs like dat.InI have a problem wit dat,still-why would it be okay fi use herbs from same people who provide it to cast spells etc

Jah Empress Menen I Rastafari
Blessed!!!


Messenger: Ras I-Tom Sent: 3/26/2009 6:54:38 AM
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I am RasTafari, but I am not Ethiopian...

As for the herbs, I do not think that ganja is only for RasTafari. Jah gave the herb to humankind. The porblem comes into the way humankind chooses to use it. Those of us RasTafari who use ganja sacramentally and medicinally are using herb the way that Jah intended herb to be used.

I and I used ot use herb recreationally, for relaxing and thinking deeply, and used to call that spiritually, but I and I asked Jah to show I how to use the herb. I and I think that anyone can say they use herb spiritually, but one has to overstand what using herb sacramentally is, because to I using herb sacramentallyis using herb spiritually in the true sense. As for relaxing..one can do this in many ways such as meditating and so on.

RasTafari!
Haile I Selassie I


Messenger: Ras I-Tom Sent: 3/26/2009 7:07:27 AM
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Blessed love!

I and I thought that the I said don't all rasta know them is Ethiopian. My bad.

Ras Tafari!


Messenger: Humble Rasta Sent: 3/30/2009 11:48:40 AM
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I get your reasoning,King.
what I wanted fi know is if ada herbs 'are' in fact also from HIs Majesty?
ada herbs excluding 'marijuana'.

Jah!


Messenger: Ras I-Tom Sent: 3/30/2009 1:00:31 PM
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all herbs are created by the one creator who is Haile Selassie I.
It is HIM who let the rain fall from his chambers and water the plants so they grow.
Just because all herbs are created by Jah does not mean they are for man to use in whatever way they like.
One of the uses of ganja herb is burning it. Even if it is not smoked, it is still used as incence. If I am correct also the Ethiopian coptic church uses it as incence. The monks use it, it is called itse farse in geez, from what I remember of a post I read written by Ras Kebre.
However smoking tobacco is detrimental to our health, but that does not mean the tobacco herb was not created by Jah.
Everything has it's use and it's purpose.

Selassie I First Live!




Messenger: Humble Rasta Sent: 3/31/2009 4:39:14 AM
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Thanx Jahman!
now InI overstand.

but doesnt da I know whether da use of da herbs,in da way ini mentioned,can be classified as witchcraft?
since,they are used now to 'cast spells'...(in e.g, the case where they are used to win in da casinos etc)
I hope da I wont call me a 'rebel' for asking so many questions.
(some rastaman call da yout 'rebel' if they ask too many questions)

Rastafari Bless!


Messenger: rootz Sent: 3/31/2009 4:53:59 AM
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bless

it doesn't make one a rebel when one asks queseions. in fact, its always a good ting when one asks. it means they want to know more. ask! aks! ask! aks!

RootsTafari
Selassie I
JAH!
RastafarI


Messenger: Ras I-Tom Sent: 3/31/2009 12:49:13 PM
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Yes I, I thought I answered the I question in my reply.
I said:
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Just because all herbs are created by Jah does not mean they are for man to use in whatever way they like...................................everything has it's use and it's purpose.
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Using herbs for witchcraft is not the way Jah intended the herbs to be used, as Jah tell I and I that witchcraft is an abomination.
I and I need not put out faith in witchcraft, I and I need to put our faith in Haile Selassie I Jah Ras Tafari!
I and I should use ganja herb for Jah glorification.

Haile I!

Ras I-Tom





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