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Messenger: ciriefader Sent: 4/21/2008 2:43:39 AM
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Rook
YOU sound like ENGLIS

Not only do you not read and understand things carefully
but you also jump to conclusions quickly and jump up and down sayin rude words
YOU are the sort of man that causes war
not one that prevents it

if you do not read and understand i posts especially about colour
YOU will go to hell

you really need to go and bow in the mountains for a long time and cast this out of yourself

i am not saying this to attack you i am saying it to help you
and all others that come with you

GO!

I am leaving now because I dont like the ignorance of you and a few others like you

you give H.I.M a bad name!




Messenger: Khu-Ra-El Sent: 4/21/2008 3:22:25 PM
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What is wrong here man?

You should not take your rage out on this man ciriefader and conspire.
If you want to attack me then come directly.

Now to the man hotep and rook, you are not educated in rastafari and therefore very respectless und very unintelligent. And like i think, also not as two white men, authorized to speak for the black community (and also not for the bobo ashanti, a priesthood).
The man ciriefader is right when he says you didn´t read the posts, you don´t understand them.
I asked you, if you think that that what you are doing is black supremacy. Now i definetly know: no. Thats not black supremacy what you are spreading.
Is seems to me as if two white men here would like to be black, that we have until shashamane, the brainwashed people who think if they copy a black man they are the same. We know that so long, as long as some black people are opressed, are poor and are not equal, some think they have something to do, because these poor black people need help. Then i don´t have to look for my own life, this is, i think why they also like skincolors.
You are praising the bobo order so high and Ras TafarI and at the same time you are bringing a disrespect, so that it´s a shame. That kind of behaviour doesn´t exist within the divine community. (read your bible)
What is your plan? Are you coming into the black community to spread your, how you like to call it white propaganda, to divide black and white or to set different organisations against each other. I hope not.
I think you are uneducated people in spirituality, and this is why your essays from the black brothers are slogans, because you are not living and acting within the way of the Lord.
Then you are daring to take the name Jesus Christ into your mouth, who died for the sins and forgave his enemies and showed us through the resurection that that ist he right way to live the divine love in respect. What do you mean?, for you, all is LOL buisness. Where is here a respect to reason in love, specially where it is about such a topic like slavery, and here on this topic –white slaves-, about opression, racism, ignorance….
Lol lol lol – what do you think who you are? These people are amusing you? Who is giving you the right for that? Do you think rook and hotep, that you could stand in any congregation of rastafarians like that? Better to disrespect and lol than to think and reason.
Through you cannot tell me what is black supremacy, you´ll get a teaching in black supremacy, and i´m only doing that because i hold the respect to this rasta reasoning board, and for others to learn that such a behaviour amongs rastafarians is not acceptable.
And now for hotep and rook, the true black supremacy from the black christ:

„That until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation; That until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes; That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race; That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained; And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique and in South Africa in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed; Until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and good-will; Until all Africans stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of all men, as they are in the eyes of Heaven; Until that day, the African continent will not know peace. We Africans will fight, if necessary, and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil.“


Khu-Ra-El



Messenger: Prince Hotep Sent: 4/21/2008 4:04:13 PM
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ciriefader was a fake man,
without any knowledge what Ras Tafar I trully is, the man listened to much reggae music and watched too much porn...
ROOK tryed to teach him the way of Ras Tafar I, but still he had his own view of what Ras Tafar I is, with donpinions from scientists, porn that saves people, gray elephants and pink flags... Maybe that kind of things are good on some esoteric agenda forum, but not on a royal forum.
"all people who think Black is supreme are batty"
That is his quote. Try to reason with this.
If this is funny for ROOK and I, personally there are a lot of funny things in babylon for I, because devil has his head up his ass, so much...
Reasoning was the first thing what the man had here, read the suicide and the pornography posts.
He doesn't want to listen, that is his problem. In time InI have witnessed people come and get frustrated about InI on this forum, because they have their own vision of what Ras Tafar I is, witch has nothing to do with reallity.

"not living and acting within the way of the Lord" where this come from?

Find anywhere that both I and ROOK stated that white is inferior??? Or any other race. Anywhere!!!!!

That perfect quote was ment as an argument against apart-hate and other injustice that still goes on in Africa and diaspora... Black people didn't install any downpressive governments in Europe nor did Australians(real Australians), nor did the Native Americans or any other nation that suffered from White Supremacy
Both InI tryed to Ispond and Iplain to the I what Black Supremacy means to InI and what it is, but the I don't listen, still cussin and vexin about things that aren't there...

Well here is something more clear from Charles Edwards Emmanuel the 7th

BLACK TRUTH

Ethiopia Africa Black international Congress. The 5th Kingdom of Christ in Righteousness of Salvation.

Our Worthy Founder, Leader, our President God and King - The Rt. Honourable King Emmanuel Charles Edwards, we stand foundationally for all Black sons and daughters of African descent; above all organization, governmentally, parliamentally, statically and churchically.

Our aim is seven or nine miles of Black Star-Liner Ships to land every man and woman under his or her own vine and fig tree. Africa for the Africans those at home and us abroad.

We call upon the Organization of African Unity to contact the Jamaican Government about the rights of the poor and have-nots.

Free Black-man Redemption and Repatriation for the Black Nation, Fundamental Freedom coming through the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights article 1-30.

Black man must be free all over the world, it is no use we hide the TRUTH. Something has to be done for the poor and have-nots in the world especially in Jamaica. This is to fulfill the words of the Rt. Hon. Marcus Garvey.

Human Rights come for one and all, from the man and woman on the sidewalk to the soldier and police. God come for the people, where is our rights?

I, the Rt. Hon. King Emmanuel stand for such Rights. It is better for the people to make a union with Christ, we would have Peace and Love over the globe.

All Black people must come under the banner of the Rainbow, the Red, Black and Green - the Red, Gold and Green with the Black Five Pointed Star



Calling on Her Majesty the Queen of England to bring up the individual Man who is Lord over her lords, the Man who lived formerly at 54b Spanish Town Rd and now lives at 10 Miles, Bull Bay. The man who sent her the Red, Black and Green - the Red, Gold and Green with the Black Five Point Star. These were presented to her at Kings House, they were received and raised at Up Park Camp. The banner of the Union Jack fell and the Rainbow Covenant raised.

This is why the Queen spoke much words and said no one should molest this Man.

Calling on the government of Jamaica to bring up each document to verify the words of the Queen. The Jamaican government said I have passed away, I am calling for such Rights for dead men tell no tales. Freedom of movement, freedom of speech to fulfill the Human Rights Charter.

Article 19 states: Everyone has a right to freedom to hold opinion without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through all media regardless of frontiers.

So, I send and come to redeem the House of Israelites and as the representative of the Royal Ethiopian Refugees, I am calling on the Jamaica government and all Heads of government universally to free the people. All captives to be set free.

Let us find back our first Love, the Love of Christ.

Articles 1- 15 to fulfill the United Nations Charter.

I am,

The Lord's Servant,

The Rt. Hon. King Emmanuel Charles Edwards,

The I am the I am.

Emmanuel means "God with us" (Matt.23)

HAILE I SELASSIE I JAH RASTAFARI




Messenger: ROOK FARI SELAH Sent: 4/21/2008 10:59:09 PM
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The Black Christ come in Flesh as Prince Emmanuel Charles Edwards the 7th, to fulfil all things of prophecy and history in righteousness of the Black Christ salvation.

All Apostles and Priest and Prophetesses, Gods and Goddesses of the Ethiopia Africa Black International Congress in divine Churchical Order of Holy Melchesidec Priesthood of the Royal Rainbow Circle Throne in dignified power of,
"Black Supremacy bring good news to the world of people in all races, tribe, tongue and language."
The Black Christ salvation stand to land every man and woman under his or her own vine and fig tree with righteousness of salvation. Peace and love is our song in righteousness of salvation of Black Supremacy in Flesh. He made the sun to rule by day and the moon to rule by night, for His mercy endureth forever. Let your light so shine that man and men may see your good works and glorify our Father in Zion.
THAT IS BLACK SUPREMECY
GOOD NEWS TO ALL PEOPLE!!!!!
HAVE U EVER EVEN BEEN TO SERVICE WHILE U ARE SAYING YOUR LONG SPEACH ABOUT WAT IS BLACK SUPREMECY AND BOBO ?
WHO CAN SPEAK ABOUT WHAT IS BOBO IF YOU NEVER ATTEND SERVICE OR HEAR EMMANUEL SPEAK WITNESS CELEBRATIONS,,,????
IVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IM NOT A PREIST
IM A MAN IN THE GHETTO
PRAISIN THE BLACK CHRIST CHANTIN MY PSLAMS RECITIN MY CREE .DOIN WHAT WE DO
AND IF SOME ONE OFFENDS ME
IM NOT A CHILD I SAY WHAT I WANT 2 SAY ITS FREEDOM STILL ...
IF A ONE DIS ME... FYAH SIMPLE
FURTHER MORE I GREW UP WITH RASTAFARI
IN MY HOUSE AS MY HEAD NOT SOMETHIN I PIK UP YESTERDAY
DONT BRING NO MIS EDUCATION TO ME ...HUMBLE DOESNT MEAN SOFT
SO I CALLED THE MAN A FAGGOT CAUSE HE DISTRUBUTE BATTYISM AND PORN SOMETHING U NEVER YET BURN
DID I EVER GET RUDE AND TELL HIM WATCH HIM MUMA?
EHH ?
MUCH MORE INI DO NOT KNOW EACH OTHER
U DONT HAVE TO TALK TO I .
.KUM BY YAH MY LAWD
BLESSED LOVE HOTEP




Messenger: Bro Dominiq Yehyah Anbesa Sent: 4/22/2008 5:59:05 AM
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Blessed Love

The way how to deal with each other is really something that needs to be adressed, as I feel. People said I was rude because lately I was adressing certain issues very directly. But I feel I kept the manners and never switched into unapropriate behaviour. So I don't see any problem with that. But there is no need for dropping manners coming with all kind of bad language which is increasing in the last time, I think. Just some post above the man Hotep said this was a Royal Forum. But I feel not really in a royal place when the manners turn to bad language as in the last time. I know we are used to talk as we know it from our daily sorrounding, and as some are pointing out they are ghetto men (however they mean it) this language might be fitting in those places. But here you aint talking to some homies, this is a board of Rastafari Kings and Queens. ,I'm sure those Idren agree that this kind of manners are not fitting here, especially when they call it a Royal Rastafari reasoningroom. And I'm sure that those people keep their manners disciplined when they attend services, or if they have not yet attended yet, they will have to learn that they must when they are in a RastafarI congregation.
Brethren Hotep you call yourself Prince and you speak of royality, but you really think that a PRINCE among the ROYALS of His Majesty's palace have used the A.. words and all other kind of such words and generally certain manners? I really don't.

Also I feel a knew trend coming up, as the Brethren Khu Ra El above already critizized, this "cool and funny" way of how dealing with topics. I think serious is Royality. I remember a time not long ago when nobody here used stuff like LOL and things like that, and now try to find a post without it. It starts feeling like some chatroom for teenies.

And another point I want to make, as also already pointed out in the last time, it seems like it starts becoming something like a back patting club ( I think that's the term: pat one's back, right?). We should not forget objective and critical reasoning on serious topics while finding each other so nice in small talk chatting. It really starts feeling like a teenie chatroom a bit.

Please see this as a concerned statement. I did not use any offensive language nor did I try to offend anybody. But in a real RastafarI congregation it is nothing unusual to talk straight with due raspect and royal manners. Nobody benefits from this uncritical patting of backs because it turns into peers group building, and a we against them attitude no matter if we right or wrong.

And I also hope that nobody feels offended as I avoided names as far as possible. It's because the topic is not a new one and there were already people who forgot about keeping manners, and there will always be some. Also it can affect all of I n I, in some heated discussions etc. But it shouldn't turn into a general all the time behaviour.

I felt the need to say something about that for some time now. The post of Khu-Ra-El made me say it here and now. I know it has nothing to do with the thread, but I do also not want to open a new one and push and highlight this issue too much. it just needs to be pointed out from time to time

Royal Manners and Discipline
Quedamawi Haile Selassie
Selah


Messenger: Bro Dominiq Yehyah Anbesa Sent: 4/22/2008 6:24:49 AM
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Ises again

I believe a perfect example how to conduct oneself in words on the internet was always practiced by those Bobo Idren who used to post here, like My Lord Far I.
It is very unusual and new to this board that Bobo come like THIS. And I feel that those authorized from the Congress would not agree. If the Bredren FarI was still here maybe he could clear the matter before it get's out of hand, in the name of Bobo even though it maybe is not even in that name.

Selah


Messenger: Prince Hotep Sent: 4/22/2008 7:29:16 AM
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blessed love lawds and empresses

give thanks for the fyah. Point taken. But still InI must not forget that it's an internet forum and people can post here freely, since it is that way, that is why I spoke ina free kind of manner, yes I it is not proper and I won't do it again, I'm sorry if that offends some one, I shouldn't give and Xcuses, though I was talking with or about people who are not Royal for sure, such as cryfather. So the lenguage is our own ras ponsibility, but still...it seems unfair that since it's a Royal forum and other people speek freely and can speak all kind of words that I should speak to those people as they were Royal, but I think it boils down to the thing that InI as R should show the Isample of how to speak and it's our ras ponsibilty to do that.

this is the only forum that I read and post, I don't go to any other forums and this is the only Ras Tafar I community that I'm a part of, both in real and cyber life it's important and for that give thanks to Ark I and mostly to Emmanuel I Selassie I JAH Ras Tafar I, I'm not a cyber freak, just that as I said there is no community where I live, so it gets down to the outer net on reasoning, if I had the posibility of living near a Ras Tafar I community I probably rarely or almost never go to the outernet, but in a sence it would be unfair, because I know that people such as Ark I and ROOK and others (don't know about Ras Kebre though) have communities near by, so why do they bother, but this helps InI a lot, to grow, so in some sence this is R.
so give thanks Bro Dominiq Yehyah Anbesa for pointing that out.


Messenger: ROOK FARI SELAH Sent: 4/22/2008 7:42:26 AM
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GIVE THANKS I RESPECT YOUR OPINION BROTHER
GHETTO MAN
REFERS TO A MAN WHO LIVES IN THE GHETTO ..
FAGGOT FRAGLE ROCK AND SUCH WORDS IS A WORD USED TO DESCRIBE A HOMOSEXUAL AND OR SODOMITE(WHICH COVERS ALL NASTYNESS} SAME AS BATTY MAN..
WHICH NO ONE SEEMS TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
2 THE SLY "HANGIN WITH THE HOMIES" COMMENT IS TYPICAL OF YOU BROTHER SO IM NOT TO OFFENDED
AND THIS IS NOT A PART ON THE BACK ISSUE SOME AGREE SOME DONT PERIOD
AND FAGGOT IS NOT A WORD THAT IS UN COMIN AMONGST PEOPLE WEATHER BOBO OR WHO OVER U ARE INI BEEN BURNIN NASTYNESS EVEN IN THEM TERMS..
BUT I WILL WATCH MY MOUTH SINCE THERE ARE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE HERE WHO ARE..GENIUINE
NOTE THAT I NEVER STARTED CUSS A BAD WORD UNTILL
BABYLON SNUK UP IN HERRE WITH APOSTICY CONSPIARCY AND HYPOCRICY
LIKE I SAID BEFORE
BUT I MEDITATED ON IT
AND IM GONNA LEAVE THE COMPUTER THING ALONE AND DELETE MY E MAIL ACOUNT CAUSE I DONT LIKE THE NEGETIVE ENERGY THAT SURROUNDS THE NET EVEN INVOLVING RASTAFARI..THERES ENUFF NEGATIVITY ON THIS BLOCK TO BE ARGUIN
WITH PEOPEL WHO SAY THEUY ARE RASTAFARI
I NEVER HAD REAL ACCESS TO A COMPUTER TILL LAST SUMMER ANY WAY ..
I CAN DO WITH OUT ..PLUS I WANT TO CAUSE NO NEGATIVE VIBES TO THE CONGRESS ON MY BEHALF..
BLESSED LOVE TO ALL
CRAMP AND PARALIZE BABYLON
HOLY EMMANUEL I SELASSIE I


Messenger: Bro Dominiq Yehyah Anbesa Sent: 4/22/2008 10:24:10 AM
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Love

I really give thanks that I n I can reason on that calmly and in love and respect. I don't like this internet bashing, it seems like a contest who is the best and hardest and so on. I don't go so agressively at people in real life, so why should I when I'm online, just because I'm some kind of anonym? In reality brethren sit down together and reason that out. We are all human and not free from making mistakes. So do unto others as you would like the RastafarI Community do unto you when you are making a mistake one day.

Brethren Hotep, as you said, it's totally right. It doesn't matter with whom you talk, we must still try to keep OUR manners. I know it's not always easy and actually in real life I'm not always able to keep cool. Especially in my daily work I stand for justice and human rights and the system get me vex regularly. And sometimes it happens that I raise my voice, but just remember what His Majesty would do.

I know the situation when the internet is the only link to Idren. Sometimes it's just not possible, especially when you are young. And there are many places on this earth where I n I is still doing pioneer works. But my advise is still, try to get in touch.
But you are not too far for ex from London, which has the only authorized Nyahbinghi House in Europe, as I know. This would be at least a first step. At least it was one of my first steps. And I give thanks for the family.

I have to trod on now.
But I find it important to reason on.
Selah


Messenger: ROOK FARI SELAH Sent: 4/22/2008 11:09:41 AM
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p s ONE MORE THING I AM SAYING ONE MORE TIME MY LAWD
HUMBLE DOES NOT MEAN SOFT
IM NOT APOLOGIZING FOR WHO I AM ,MY MANNERS ARE THERE.
I TREAT ONES WITH RESPECT, WHO TREAT ME WITH RESPECT.
I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANY THING. ON THE STREET IN MY HOUSE ANY WHERE, ESPECIALLY ON THE NET.
JUST GOT FRUSTRATED A FEW TIMES WITH STUPIDITY ,
I AM WITH JAH.
I DEAL WITH PEOPLE THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT OR WHO.
I TREAT EVERYONE WITH HUMILITY.
BUT IF A ONE TRY TO MANIPULTE MY INTELEGENCE OR DISS ME, ITS FYAH. WEATER OR NOT ITS WORDS OR WHAT EVER ELSE THEY FEEL THEY CAN DO!!! PERIOD .
I PRAISE JAH , I DO JAH WORKS, AND I AM RESPECTED IN PLACES NOT JUSS EVERY BODY CANT WALK , HOME AND ABROAD!AND I GIVE THANKS TO THE MOST HIGH FOR ALL STRENGTH ALL PROTECTION
SO U KNOW?

WHEN I WAS AT TABER,
I NEVER FRONT OR LIE ABOUT WHO I AM ,AND WAT I FEEL , DO WHERE IM FROM .
I THINK THATS WHY IM SO LOVED THERE..
EVERY ONE I CARE TO KNOW, LOVES ME ..
MY ONLY MISTAKE, WAS POSTIN OFFICIAL CONGRESS WRITINGS ,ON THE NET,
AND I AM GOIN TO MAKE MY OPFFICIAL APOLOGY AT TABERNACLE ..I WAS ONLY TRYING TO GIVE THE GOOD NEWS OF BLACK SUPREMECY, TO ONE AND ALL.
I SEE THIS IS NOT, THE TIME OR PLACE,ONES WILL BE CALLED ON THERE OWN.
WHAT A MISTAKE I MADE .
I CAN GET OVER IT STILL..
ALL STRENGTH ALL ITECTION TO THE ROYAL HAOSE OF JAH,
IN THE FUTURE PLEASE NOTE. THAT NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO SAY RASTAFARI.
ARE SOFT HIPPIE TYPE PEOPLE ...I KNOW IM NOT.. I TRY TO MAKE UP FOR IT IN GIVIN .
I GIVE MY ALL. TO EVERY ONE.
THO THATS NOT RESPECTED EITHER.
MORE TIMES PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE..
THE THING ABOUT REALITY ,IS U CAN REASON WITH PEOPLE WHOM U WANT TO REASON.
NO CHANCE ON THE STREET, IF A MAN SEE ME THEY WILL CALL BLACK SUPREMECY BATTYISM ..
NO CHANCE OF A ONE DISSIN ME FREELY, I GREET STRANGERS WITH BLESSED
MY LAWD, PRINCESS, EMPRESS
I GIVE STRENGTH FROM JAH TO PEOPLE IN THE GHETTO ,WHO RATHERE REFER TO EACH OTHER AS NIGGA AND BITCH
PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY GROW TO BE ,
IF U GROW UP IN A HOSTILE ENVIROMENT
BEEN SHO,T HALF YOUR FAMILY HAS BEEN KILL OFF FROM MURDER, OR DRUGS CHANCES ARE U WONT BE A HIPPIE..
EVEN WHEN U SEEK THE FATHER I KNOW PREISTS WHO WILL TELL U BEFORE THEY COME TO SALVATION THEY WERE NOT SOME ONE UD WANT TO KNOW.AND THEY GIVE THANKS FOR WHO THEY ARE NOW

WHICH IS GOOD U HAVE TO KNOW THE HARD SHIPS TO APPRECILOVE ZION
I HAVE A LONG ROAD UP HILL
LOVE JAH



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