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Messenger: FarI-Sight Sent: 7/31/2007 5:39:48 AM
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Blessed Love

Selahssie I Son, who is Jah if King Selassie I is seated on His Right hand side?
My knowledge and understanding is that King Selassie I is the Almighty Jah who sitteth on the Rainbow Circle Throne.
Selassie I,Jah Rastafari
I have heard this many times from ones here, we need to get this clarified or else other ones will come here and just sight up confusion and mixup contraditction
Who is JAH whom Selassie I sits upon His Right hand side?



Messenger: Dominic Sent: 7/31/2007 11:21:34 AM
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Greetings

I wanna hear about Selassie I disappearing from his cell. Why is it so important on which side of JAH he sits?



Messenger: Ten Sent: 7/31/2007 4:29:16 PM
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Greetings
I've read stuff on the Emperor's imprisonment and those that say he died from respitory failure say there are mysterious circumstances surrounding this event - from what I've read no one really knows how it happened. However I've found nothing on HIS disappearance, perhaps other Rases know. As for where He sits, Sellasie I sits upon the throne and the Ruler of All, when I n I pray, I chant JAH Rastafari King Sellasie I. For this translates to HIM as God, He sits on no one's right hand but the throne itself. He is JAH Rastafari so when FarIsight tries to seperate Rastafari from Sellasie I, that's confusing to I - HIS name is Ras Tafari as it is also Haille Sellasie I, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of Judah, Negusa Negust. One and the same iverliving, loving Father. Blessed Love


Messenger: Dominic Sent: 7/31/2007 5:36:27 PM
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Im confused how a man can be god. I dont see Yasus as god.Should I or something? Why would I think a man created the universe, Im sure King Solomon never gave praise to a man, he gave thanks to the creator. I sight Selassie I as a man walking on the earth because he grew from being a baby to being a man. so did jesus and so did other races people in different religion. I do see the similarities in religions and this is that there is a creator. Propet muhammad was therefore not god but was fulfilling his part in gods big picture. Jesus and moses were not gods they were playing a part. president bush thinks hes god but hes part of a big picture. negative. People who try to say that Jesus, Selassie I, Buddha, Krishna whatever confuse me and I can never overstand why anyone would be so blank to think that a man in the sky is making decisions based on the same frequency of thinking as a intelligent and wise man. NO way will I believe that A man can be the creator of the universe. HOW? how is the bible completely accurate when there stories like noas ark? where do dinosaurs fit in? someone explain this because I am confused? Some RASTA argue with eachother and this and that because of different orders or what not. some RASTA are looked down on cause there not black, and even though I am black I believe that its not important about what you eat whats important is how you live and I mean you can be someone to eat and ital diet but still be a judgemental racist asshole. Our ancesors belief of the sun and stars and nature were not completely wrong and If you would ask elders now in africa about selassie I I dont know what they would say but I can say that I dont overstand to this day OTHER people image of Selassie I.

I see him as a symbol of god, sent to us in the last day to teach in the last years to come and to fullfill prophecys. He is part of king david bloodline and definately shows strenght justice and strength to stand up for yourself. We all know about the italian and african conquests magical victory, even though the odds.

What I dont grasp though is HOW can anyone think that Selassie I is where your family came from? Maybe I have more of a TTI attitude or something, but I cant agree with them cause they but Jesus on a stage like hes the greatest thing in the world. I see JAH as the greatest which resides in me you and trees and things but maybe im too nature oriented and all I can see is JAH in people and nature.

SOmeone clear things up because I am not here to offend or wrongfully question my lord but I want ANsweres and as it is said keep knocking and you will be let in. IM POUNDING and I want a educated man or woman like ARK I to answer this Selassie I death question. The reason I think alot of people cant answere things and sometimes discussions end in a big whirl of confusion is cause people themself dont know nuff. Everyone always talkin at eachother but not with eachother. PLease CLear some things up here. I LOVE WHAT SELASSIE I DID FOR THE WORLD, but I need to know the actual truth.

JAH guide...



Messenger: Ten Sent: 7/31/2007 6:27:05 PM
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"can never overstand why anyone would be so blank to think that a man in the sky is making decisions based on the same frequency of thinking as a intelligent and wise man. "

My response to your words is in these truthful lyrics
"Some people think great God will come from the sky and make everybody feel high"
Aya I think its that Christian conditioning that makes people think God sits up there in heaven so every Sunday they go to the pulpit and pray to the white figure in the sky, yet Jah live everyday, in this very iwa He walked as man. Why is it so hard to believe God walked as man in flesh as King? If He is a "symbol of God" then are you contradicting your initial standpoint? Rastafari, King Creator His Majesty for I, some say Yesus Kristos, others recognise God in many other ways - but each to his/her meditation. As He manifests in all those things the I sights, He manifests as man in flesh too, just because He came upon this earth in this hour it does not mean Jah has not always reigned. He is the beginning with no end as prophecy reveal, you can trace yourself, your family, your cat and dog too back to Him because He is the Maker of all , I. I'm not mocking the I, but truly some things require faith, pray to Jah and the answers will be revealed unto the I. They are already within you. Bless.


Messenger: Ras KebreAB Sent: 7/31/2007 6:30:52 PM
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"I dont overstand to this day OTHER people image of Selassie I. "

who is "OTHER" here? Every Rastafari Man Woman and Child?

Seen, well when you stop mentioning Selassie I Name and "death" in the same sentence, i will be glad to reason with the I

I would never claim to know all things but i do know where to begin,i do know who sits at the center of All things

Blessed
Rastafari Is


Messenger: Dominic Sent: 7/31/2007 7:20:51 PM
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ok I wont say the names together. Reason forward.


Messenger: Ten Sent: 7/31/2007 7:54:30 PM
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Ras Dominic you confuse I in one instance you cannot over His Majesty as God, but then you go on to speak of His Majesty as "a symbol of God", "the God of Israel" in another post. Just what do you mean?


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 7/31/2007 11:56:37 PM
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The people that took over the government in Ethiopia claimed that they buried Selassie I overnight to hide their embarrassment of Selassie I getting away from them. They couldn't show anybody a body to prove anything, so they made up that foolish story.

In regards to your question about Man being God. When you come to Iverstand Oneness, you will Iverstand that. Here are some reasonings about Oneness with the Creator. It is best to read them in order.

Ocean

Who is RasTafarI?

One


Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


Messenger: Ras KebreAB Sent: 8/1/2007 9:04:34 AM
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Blessed Ises

Dominic, Ark I has already posted some important parts of the scriptures for you in the other post but if you are still looking for scripture for an overstanding of , as you said , "how a man can be god"
Here is the word according to the Kebre Negast

K.B : 106. A Prophecy concerning the Coming of CHRIST

And now hearken how each one of them hath prophesied concerning Him, [for the narrative] is pleasant to hear. ISAIAH the Prophet prophesied concerning His coming and said, "A Son is born unto us. A Child is given unto us. Dominion is written upon His shoulder. He is God, strong in rule, King, great Counsellor is His name."1 Now the meaning of this is manifest: the Son of God is born, Whose sovereignty was written down before the world was, and He is wiser than anyone else: [this is what] he saith unto thee. And again ISAIAH prophesied and said, "Behold My servant Whom I have chosen, on Whom is the delight of My soul, and the nations shall put their confidence in Him."2 And these words give us to understand that CHRIST is the Spirit of God, the Word of the Father Who put on our flesh and was born for us: and the peoples of RÔMÊ and ETHIOPIA and all other nations have believed in Him. And he spake unto the people of ISRAEL, and again he prophesied, saying, "Many shall follow after Thee with their loins girded up, and their backs bound with fetters, and they shall pray to Thee and worship Thee, for thou art God, and we have not recognized Thee."3 Now this he spake concerning the martyrs, and those who became monks in the desert and solitary monks, whose hearts were fettered with His commandment, and who prayed to Him, meaning that reward was meet for both the martyrs and the solitary monks. "And we did not recognize Thee": ISRAEL made itself blind, and crucified Him, and refused to walk in His righteousness. And again ISAIAH prophesied and said, "God shall come, and the heathen shall put their trust in Him and shall know Him";4 this meaneth that CHRIST shall come, and the JEWS shall reject Him, but the heathen shall believe in Him. And again he prophesied and said, "Be strong ye weak hands and tired knees, and rejoice ye hearts that are cast down, for God hath come, Who shall requite our debt, and save us. And He shall open the eyes of the blind, and He shall make the ears of the deaf to hear, and the feet that are lame shall run, and the tongues of the dumb shall speak."1 These words are spoken in respect of those who err in worshipping idols, and those who are dead in sin, and those whose hearts are darkened, and of you who do not know that God created you. Rejoice ye this day: He hath come Who will redeem the sin of ADAM, and make ADAM'S debt His own. He was crucified being sinless. He hath killed Death by means of His own death, and the blind see, and the lame walk, and the deaf hear, and the dumb speak unhaltingly, and besides all these things the dead are raised. This is the meaning of this prophecy.

Thus DAVID the Prophet prophesied and said, "God shall come in visible form, and our God will not keep silence."2

Thus JEREMIAH prophesied and said, "God shall come down upon the earth, and shall walk about with men like us."3

Thus Ezekiel the Prophet prophesied and said, "I your God will come, and I will walk about among them, and they shall know Me that I am their God."4

Thus DAVID prophesied and said, "Blessed is He Who cometh in the name of God: we have blessed you in the Name of the Lord."5

Thus HABAKKUK prophesied and said, "God shall come from the South, and the Holy One from Mount FÂRÂN and from the cities of JUDAH."6

Thus ELIJAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "With a new covenant shall God come unto us."1

Thus JOEL the Prophet prophesied and said, "The heavenly EMMANUEL shall come and shall deliver the work which He hath fashioned with His own hand from the hand of the Devil, the deceiver, and his devils which lead astray."2

Thus DAVID the Prophet prophesied and said, "The God of gods shall show Himself in ZION.3 The people say out of ZION, A man is born therein, and He the Most High hath founded it."4

Thus SOLOMON his son prophesied and said, "Verily God shall be with men, and He shall walk about upon the earth."5

Thus his father DAVID prophesied and said, "He shall come down like the dew upon wool, and like the drop which droppeth upon the earth, and righteousness shall spring into being in his days."6

Thus SOLOMON his son prophesied and said, "A Saviour shall be born out of ZION, and He shall remove sin from JACOB."7

Thus HOSEA the Prophet prophesied and said, "I will come to thee, O ZION, and I will walk about in thee, JERUSALEM, saith God, the Holy One of ISRAEL."8

Thus MICAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "The Word of God shall appear in JERUSALEM, and the Law shall go forth from ZION."9

Thus HOSEA the Prophet prophesied and said, "God shall appear upon the earth, and shall dwell with men like us."10

Thus JEREMIAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "A saviour shall be sent from ZION, and He shall remove sin from the people of ISRAEL."11

Thus MICAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "God shall come from the heavens and dwell in His temple (or, citadel)."1

Thus ZECHARIAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "Rejoice, O daughter of ZION! Behold, I am alive, and I will dwell in thee, saith God, the Holy One of ISRAEL."2

Thus MICAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "Behold, God shall come, and shall shine upon those who fear Him; Sun of righteousness is His Name."3

Thus HOSEA the Prophet prophesied and said, "God shall come upon thee, JERUSALEM, and shall appear in the midst of thee."4

Thus DAVID the Prophet prophesied and said, "And He shall live, and they shall give Him of the gold of ARABIA, and they shall pray for Him continually, and He shall be the stay of all the earth upon the tops of the mountains."5

Thus JOB the just prophesied and said, "God shall walk about upon the earth, and He shall travel over the sea as upon the dry land."6

Thus DAVID the Prophet prophesied and said, "He bowed the heavens and came down."7

Thus ISAIAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "Behold, the virgin shall conceive, and shall bring forth a Son, and she shall call His name EMMANUEL."8

Thus DAVID the Prophet prophesied and said, "I brought Thee forth from the womb before the star of the morning."9 And again he said, "God said unto me: Thou art my Son, and I have this day brought Thee forth."10

Thus GIDEON prophesied and said, "Behold, He shall come down like dew upon the earth."1

Thus DAVID the Prophet prophesied and said, "God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, and from the temple of His sanctuary."2

Thus MOSES the Prophet prophesied and said, "And all the children of God shall say: He is strong, for He avengeth the blood of His sons."3

Thus DAVID prophesied and said, "And there will I make a horn to DAVID to rise up, and I will prepare a lamp for Mine Anointed, and I will clothe His enemies with shame, and in Him shall My holiness flourish."4

Thus HOSEA the Prophet prophesied and said, "Fear not, for Thou shalt not be put to shame. And be not dismayed because of Thy praise."5 And again he said, "Hearken unto Me, hearken unto Me, My people, for My judgement (or, justice) is right. I will come and I will dwell with you, and the nations shall put their trust in My light; for the nations shall be the loved ones of CHRIST."

Thus DAVID the Prophet said, "A people whom I do not know shall serve Me; at the mere hearing of the ear they shall answer Me."6 And to the JEWS he said, "The children of the stranger have been false to me, the children of the stranger have become old and have travelled haltingly on their path. God liveth, and blessed [is] my God."7 When he saith unto thee, "God liveth," he speaketh of His Godhead, and when he saith unto thee "and blessed [is] my God," he speaketh concerning His putting on the flesh. And again he speaketh concerning His putting on the flesh in ISAIAH the Prophet, saying, "Who is this glorious One who cometh forth from EDOM, ADÔNÂI, Who came down from heaven, and put on the things of BASÔR, glorious in majesty?"1 When he saith "glorious" he refereth to His sweet odour; and when he saith "ADÔNÂI," he meaneth the Word of the Father Who was before the world, the Son of God; when he saith "He put on the things of BASÔR, the glorious in majesty," he indicateth clearly the body of ADAM.

Thus DAVID the Prophet prophesied saying concerning Christian folk, "Declare ye to the nations that God is King, and that He hath made fast the world so that it shall never be moved."2 And he also prophesied concerning His coming to the nations, and said, "Before the face of God shall He come, He shall come and shall judge the earth, and He shall judge the world in righteousness, and the nations with justice."3

Thus ISAIAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "The Lord of hosts hath planned to destroy the contumely of the nations, and He shall bring to nothing the nobles and the mighty ones of the earth."4 And continuing his prophecy he said, "He shall come and shall build His house, and He shall deliver His people."5 And he added other words, saying, "And at that time there shall spring from the root of JESSE One Who shall be set over the nations, and the nations shall put their trust in Him, and the place where He shall abide shall be glorious for ever."6

Thus DAVID prophesied, and said, "Sing ye unto God Who dwelleth in ZION, and declare ye to the nation His work."7

Thus SOLOMON his son prophesied and spake concerning our Saviour EMMANUEL, the Sun of righteousness, "He brought Me forth before the hills, and before He made the lands and set them in order, and founded Me before the world; before He made the earth, and before He made the abysses, and before the waterfloods came forth, and the beauty of the flowers appeared, and before the winds blew, God created His work before His face, and I existed conjointly with My Father."1

Thus his father DAVID prophesied and said, "His name was before the sun, and before the moon, generation to generation."2

Thus his son SOLOMON prophesied and said, "When He made strong the firmament above the clouds, and when He set in position the walls of the boundaries of the heavens, and when He set the sea in its appointed place, and before He founded His throne above the winds, and when He made strong the foundations of the earth, I existed conjointly with Him. I was that wherein He rejoiced continually, and day by day, and I exulted with Him at all times before His face."3

Thus JOB the Prophet prophesied and said, "The face of my God is in the East, and His light is before [that of] the sun, and the nations put their trust in His Name."4

Thus ISAIAH the Prophet prophesied and said, "Remember ye not the things of the past, and think not about the things of olden time; behold, I will make a new thing, which shall now spring up, so that ye may know that I make a road through the desert and water floods in the wilderness; and the beasts of the field shall follow after Me, and the young birds, and the ostriches. For I have given water in the desert, and made streams of water to flow in the wilderness, so that I may give drink to My people and to My chosen ones whom I have gotten, so that they may declare My glory, and perform My commandment."5

Thus SOLOMON prophesied and said, "Who hath gone up into heaven and come down? And who hath gathered together the winds in his bosom? And who hath collected the waters in his garment? And who hath measured the waters of the sea in his hand, and the heavens on the palm of his hand? And what is his name and what is the name of his son?"1

Thus MICAH the Prophet prophesied and said unto the JEWS, "I have no pleasure in you, saith God Who ruleth all things. And I have no pleasure in your offerings, and I will accept no gift from your hands. For from the rising of the sun to the setting thereof shall My Name be praised among all peoples, and in all countries incense shall be offered up to my great Name among all peoples, saith Almighty God."2

And again MICAH the Prophet said, "A new covenant shall appear upon the mountain of God, and it shall be prepared upon the tops of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills, and people shall say, 'Come ye, let us go up into the mountain of God.' And many nations shall go thereto and shall say, 'Come ye, let us go up into the mountain of God,3 and they shall declare unto us His way, and we will walk therein.'"

Thus DAVID the Prophet prophesied and said, "Hearken unto Me, O My people, and I will speak unto thee, ISRAEL, and will bring testimony to thee; I am God, thy God."4

Thus MOSES the Prophet prophesied and said concerning the Trinity, "Hear, O ISRAEL, the Lord thy God is One."5 And this is to be explained thus: Father, and Son, and Holy Spirit are One God, Whose kingdom is one, Whose dominion is one, and as One men shall worship Them in the heavens and in the earth, in the sea and in the abysses. And to Him be praise for ever and ever! Amen.


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