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We were the first Fascists

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Messenger: MELCHEZIDEK Sent: 11/30/2020 7:30:04 AM

When we had 100,000 disciplined men, and were training children, Mussolini was still an unknown.

Yes I

Mussolini copied our Fascism.

Marcus Garvey, seen.

Blessed I

While many liberals are the first to hurl the word "fascist" at those with whom they disagree, they usually ignore the fascism of blacks, even when publicly advocated.

Capitalism is necessary to the progress of the world, and those who unreasonably and wantonly oppose or fight against it are enemies of human advancement.

Fire burn the Pope in Rome, who does not want the human race to achieve advancement!

The UNIA was before Mussolini and Hitler ever were heard of. Mussolini and Hitler copied the program of the UNIA.

The danger of Communism to the Negro is seen in the selfish and vicious attempts of that party or group to use the Negro's vote and physical numbers in helping to smash and over-throw by revolution, a system that is injurious to them as the white underdogs, the success of which would put their group or race still in power, not only as Communists but as white men.

Garvey began to identify white supremacists as the only true friends of Blacks because they understood the need for racial purity and shared common aims with the UNIA.

If some whites were better friends, others were more dangerous--above all socialists and Communists.

It seems strange and a paradox, but the only convenient friend the Negro worker or laborer has, at the present time, is the white capitalist....

I am of the opinion that the group of whites from whom Communists are made, as well as trade unionists and members of the Workers' party, is more dangerous to the Negro's welfare than any other group at present.

Garvey shared ideas with Booker T. Washington. Capitalism and self-help were just some of those ideas.

Booker Taliaferro Washington was an American educator, author, orator and adviser to multiple presidents of the United States. Washington was from the last generation of black American leaders born into slavery and became a leading voice of the former slaves and their descendants. He called for black progress through education and entrepreneurship, rather than trying to challenge it. Washington mobilized a long-term goal of building the economy by focusing on self-help and schooling.

Washington was closely affiliated with the Republican Party, and was often asked for political advice by presidents Theodore Roosevelt and William Howard Taft.

Blacks were solidly Republican in this period, having gained emancipation and suffrage with President Lincoln and his party.

President Theodore Roosevelt invited Washington to dine with him and his family at the White House. This was the first time an African American was invited there on equal terms by the president.

Demon Rats (Democratic Party politicians) from the South indulged in racist personal attacks when they learned of the invitation.

James K. Vardaman described the White House as

"so saturated with the odor of the n----- that the rats have taken refuge in the stable, and declared "I am just as much opposed to Booker T. Washington as a voter as I am to the coconut-headed, chocolate-colored typical little coon who blacks my shoes every morning. Neither is fit to perform the supreme function of citizenship."

Benjamin Tillman of South Carolina said,

"The action of President Roosevelt in entertaining that n----- will necessitate our killing a thousand n------ in the South before they will learn their place again."

Haile Selassie was an embodiment of a Garvey prediction. For nearly two decades Marcus Garvey had steered his listeners towards the passage in the Bible which foretold that "princes shall come out of Egypt". In 1930, with Selassie's magnificent coronation, it had come to pass.

Emperor Haile Selassie had been the beneficiary of Garvey's advocacy, and was now even more so when in 1935 Mussolini started assembling his troops on the edge of Ethiopia. In editorials in the Black Man, Garvey championed the petit Ethiopian, Ras Tafari, as the messiah the black masses had been waiting for, who was now defying the might of a militarised European power, rendered most visibly so with news photographs of Selassie standing on an unexploded Italian bomb. Blacks from around the world were fired by the inspiration of Ethiopian resistance and outraged over the Italian aggression and its merciless use of mustard gas.

Garvey told his friend excitedly that Garveyites had an earlier claim on Fascism: 'We were the first Fascists... When we had 100,000 disciplined men, and were training children, Mussolini was still an unknown, [and] Mussolini copied our Fascism. But the Negroes sabotaged it.'

Negro with a Hat: The Rise and Fall of Marcus Garvey, p439.

Blessed I


Ras TafarI

More fire upon the Vatican

Fire burn the Pope in Rome

JAH Bless


Messenger: Black Christ in Flesh Sent: 11/30/2020 8:13:11 AM

Using English language to define a culture that predates English literature is buffoonery at most. You, brother, are packing unbelievable amounts of propaganda under your chin. Do you even know or understand the definition of fascism? I don't want to appear like I am judging somebody but you, my brother, must be mad to mix up the black man fight for justice and equality with all kinds of isms that don't benefit black people at all.

Messenger: Evison Matafale Skræling Sent: 11/30/2020 7:45:46 PM


Messenger: Mr Jam Sent: 12/1/2020 12:08:37 AM

the quote from marcus garvey is true, he did say, "we were the first fascists" But what he means by that is most likely not the portrayal
of the idea of fascists which came to pass.

Messenger: Black Christ in Flesh Sent: 12/1/2020 3:24:06 AM

Well marcus garvey was PROBABLY out of his mind because he also called Ras Tafari a coward when he went on exile from the fascist italian invasion, and man, wise and profound as he is, sometimes lacks the proper knowledge.

Messenger: Kiwiman Sent: 12/3/2020 12:43:18 AM

Man is flawed and will sin again and again, [nearly] all men.

In I and I's best moments does the light of goodness shine from our faces and only a few good people will exceed this output of goodness.

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