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Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/23/2019 12:37:28 PM
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This news article popped up and filled I with great joy.....



Growing Number Of Black Women Leaving Churches For Witchcraft

By Vic CarterFebruary 18, 2019 at 11:00 pm

Filed Under:Baltimore, Local TV, Maryland, Talkers, Witches


BALTIMORE (WJZ) — For most, worship is a tradition that predates all of us.

There is another, more ancient art of worshiping, but it’s not to God, The Father, The Son or The Holy Ghost but to spirits and deities that span the oceans and dates back to pre-slavery days in Africa.

A growing number of black women in Maryland are leaving traditional churches for witchcraft.

WJZ’s Vic Carter looks into the trend and discovers its about more than spells and rituals.

When asked if they were, in fact, witches he got this response.

“That depends on how you look at it,” said High Priestness Iyanifa Oyadele Ogunsina, a Coppin State graduate. “I am whatever the situation calls for. If you come at me with respect, you get Glenda the Good Witch from the suburbs, but if you come at me with negativity, meanness, and disrespect, then you get Evilene, your worst nightmare.”

They have many names, titles, and ranks within their belief system.

The women are college-educated professionals who have chosen to believe that witchcraft is a truer example of worship inclusive of the genders and connecting them to their ancestors.

It fills a need not found in traditional worship.

Most of them, like realtor Shango Yemi, grew up in the church.

“I was Christian, I was raised Christian,” said the Morgan State graduate. “There are Christians in my family. In fact, my grandfather was a preacher in the south. I also grew up Christian. I grew up Anglican, in the Episcopal Church. The older I got, the more disconnected I felt with the church and not being moved by anything, Like it just felt like words, like really empty.”

Herbalist Iyawo Orisa Efunyale came from similar beginnings.

“I was raised Baptist,” she said. “My father is a deacon, my mother is a deaconess. I was in church all the time, three times a week.”

These women are part of a sect, ILE Ola Afefe Osa Meji Spiritual Temple, where they worship and offer prayers to Osun, a predominate deity.

She is the deity, or the Orisha, of aesthetics, beauty, sex, and sensuality.

There are growing numbers of African-American women who have chosen for themselves a new life, leaving the church in search of more meaning in their lives.

At a recent convention in Baltimore, more than 200 witches gathered. They see it as a sisterhood.

But their spells are for good, not evil.

In one ritual, the women prepared an offering to Osun on behalf of a woman in California who is looking for a mate.

The offering, an omelette-type dish, is sweetened with honey and believed to be a favorite of Osun. Prayers are said over the offering for the woman in need.

A portion is even offered to Eshew, the male counterpart of Osun, and placed in a secret place beneath the stairs of the Odenton home.

Using shells, they ask the spirit if she is pleased. Four shells are tossed to the floor. Two land up, two land down, a balance. The gift is accepted.

The traditions may seem odd to most, and a mystery to some, complex and multi-layered but these Dawtas of the Moon, followers of Osun, women who are powerful, determined, and understanding. They said that there is nothing to fear. They are here and they will be here for the foreseeable future.

“This is not a new-age type of thing, this is something our ancestors did,” said doula Iyawo Orisa Omitola. “and we are tapping back into it so that we can become our best selves individually and collectively.”

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VIC CARTER

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Dash away the Old Robe mumma.....Midnite really said it best:




Messenger: Empress lioness Sent: 2/23/2019 2:52:42 PM
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New leaf ova world in a day, ayay
Wickedness must passeth away

Babylon crazy!
Bless Ras




Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 2/24/2019 2:03:33 AM
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Maybe it's just my experiences in the Caribbean with the power of Voodoo (also traditional & not as evil as portrayed in the movies) or what I've witnessed in my own family, but i see engaging in witchcraft as potentially dangerous. When you invoke the power of His Majesty, you know that you are invoking a good and Righteous power founded in Love. The uninitiated practitioner of witchcraft may be invoking evil powers unwittingly. Perhaps this is partly some Christian doctrine that was inculcated into me in my youth speaking, but as a RastafarI knows: Evil is very real and making a deal with the devil or summoning the powers of evil (even unwittingly) has consequences. I've steered my own daughters away from witchcraft in favor of the Power of JAH Love. My one daughter who would not heed my admonitions and has flirted with occult practices has had very bad experiences in life and remains in a very scary place.

Just my two cents.

RESPECT


Messenger: Africa I Sent: 2/24/2019 3:38:48 AM
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Blessed Love.

In continental Africa, witchcraft is well known and it is generally abhorred.

Here in the motherland witchcraft is defined as the use of occult powers to scare, kill, destroy, harm, and gain unfair advantage over others. Witchcraft is considered a crime against JAH.

These practises are universally repudiated here and have zero popular support.

African RasTafarI does not support witchcraft.

InI see sistren and brethren in the Diaspora using the word witchcraft. This is a sign of how far removed they are from African culture.

Haile I and Menen I had nothing to do with witchcraft.
Rasponsible people who love themselves and their community have nothing to do with witchcraft.

I empathise with the sistren in the Diaspora who turn to witchcraft because they have, through slavery and subjugation, lost contact with the true culture.

May all living beings return to the Truth.

Love



Messenger: Africa I Sent: 2/24/2019 3:38:49 AM
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Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/24/2019 5:15:04 AM
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Don't make Babylon fool you. Or scare you with terminology. And as it was mentioned, there is nothing wrong with Africans recalling and picking up Voodoo which they have a divine RIGHT to as with any of our native pre Christian practices.


The article makes mention of black women replacing Christianity with ideologies of Oshun and Eshew... The Orishas. In other words they are reinvigorating their Yoruba traditions. Some of the most ilaful sprirtual traditions one could find


Witchcraft is a none specific term. Just like Obeah. Rasta burn blood sacrifice and such thing but 'witchcraft' in the sense of dealing with the Orishas is celebrated among all Rastafari which I know. What a blessed rememberence of InI roots.

The term witchcraft in the Western sense means any deviation from Judeochristianity. Lol. I man as a none Christian African naturopathic I, would easily be classed as a witch wizard obeah king. With great joy. Lol

I see only Royalty.

Righteousness is defined by the elder Ras MANDINGO as the removal of the effects of white supremacy from the psyche of Africans. This includes a return to ones native, natural ideologies and culture pre-Christianity.




Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/24/2019 5:35:00 AM
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Muta reasons "black magic" and "witchcraft"

From 11 mins onward (the 1st 11 mins is an introduction from a Queen Mother Osun)





Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 2/24/2019 5:44:19 AM
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I know brujos and brujas in Mexico and Central America as well as hilots in the Philippine Islands who practice blends of naturopathic healing with supernatural powers. Even with such apparently benign applications (e.g., I've received treatments from brohos and hilots before), i would still enjoin anyone contemplating practicing these healing techniques with the same admonishment I did about practicing witchcraft (or whatever term one prefers for practices the can involve invoking occult powers): be very careful. It should go without saying, but on this forum it seems to come up, so let me make clear that my concerns and admonition have nothing to do with race or nationality or some other classification - they're a practical matter that arises when one contemplates calling upon malevolent powers which may be mistaken for benevolent, and the potentially serious consequences of meddling with that which is powerful yet little understood.

Having seen what happened to my daughter when became became involved in the occult, I would be remiss if I did not provide this warning to anyone with an ear to hear it.

Our knowledge of JAH gives any Rasta access to all the Power of Love and Goodness and Life that one could ever need to heal or to deal with any situation in our trod.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/24/2019 5:49:46 AM
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Give thanks for the many Obeah Yoruba practicing RASTAFARI such as a Mutabaruka or Iself. To label the whole thing with a 'be careful' is foolish. I would urge more 'carefulness'for ones invoking Christianity and Bible God

Naturally, we dont deal with blood sacrifice. And csre mudt be taken with ANY form of spiritual practice. Otherwise, and wholly, what a Joy to invoke I original ways of life...

I wish brother VoodooRoots was still around to reason on this topic. ZionMountain too.....

But I will carry the flame.


NOTHING in the original posts regarding the Yoruba return of these African American mothers suggests wickedness. Keep the Western mindset away from such glory.

"The women are college-educated professionals who have chosen to believe that witchcraft is a truer example of worship inclusive of the genders and connecting them to their ancestors.

It fills a need not found in traditional worship."


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/24/2019 6:01:43 AM
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Midnite invokes the African God of war O-gun to chant down the House of Gun Amerimakkka.




TitansTV reason Yoruba and Ifa...




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