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Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 11/30/2018 11:20:04 PM
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I&i address a RastafarI audience in this forum. RastafarI need no detailed explanation to overstand the fundamental precept that America the Babylon is dreadful. We have no need to dwell upon the obvious details of the Evil of Babylon and prefer to focus our energies on JAH Love & Imanity. The notion that doing so would be characterized negatively is anathema to us, akin to saying that Jesu Cristo should have kept his mouth shut up on the mount by the Sea of Galilee instead of addressing the multitude with “virtue signalling”.

To compile a list of specifics to illustrate how America the Babylon is an odious scourge upon Imanity is like picking rotten, low hanging fruit off of a bad tree laden with an abundance of such. The history of the nation since its founding is replete with testimony of its cruel and inhuman nature, from the very calculated extermination of the native peoples of North America to the importation of millions of African brethren & sistren to form the backbone of its rise to prominence as an agroeconomic power. There are a myriad of books detailing America the Babylon’s sordid history and its foundation in an ideology of destruction of Love, Inity & Imanity. The interested party might consider reading “The Untold History of the United States” by historian Peter Kuznick & filmmaker Oliver Stone.

With the government of America the Babylon currently engaged in a self-righteous campaign to impose sanctions on countries all over the world for all manner of real or imagined offenses against its Imperial Dictates, i thought it would be interesting to see just how many offenses i could think of off of the top of my head for which the U.S. could be sanctioned by the UN and or other international “coalitions”. I made the following list of just the “low hanging fruit” in a few minutes and decided it was enough to illustrate the point (i.e., an exhaustive list would go on forever).

Before the list begins, here’s an apropos quote about America the Babylon that i saw the other day on a chat site:

“We have now entered the most dangerous period in human history. Collectively we’re all faced with a psychopathic, armed to the teeth, hyper-power that’s hell bent on global domination at any/all costs.”

The list of U.S. offenses (in no particular order):

• Military invasion and occupation of Syria in violation of the U.S.-co-authored & -ratified UN Charter and, hence, violation of Article 6 of America the Babylon's own Constitution.

• Repeated violations of the U.S.-co-authored & -ratified UN Charter including making repeated threats of use of military force in violation of Article 2(4) against member states (e.g., North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, et al.)

• Violation of the UN Security Council Resolution 2231 by abrogating its legally binding obligations under JCPOA (the Iran Treaty).

• “Weaponization” and deployment of militant religious [i.e., Islamic] extremism for advancement of its geopolitical objectives, including but not limited to material support for terrorist organizations such as ISIS and al-Qaeda.

• Interference with the internal political affairs of Ukraine by organizing and providing material support to a coup d'état in 2014

• Interference with the internal political affairs of Venezuela by organizing and providing material support to an attempted coup d'état in 2002

• Interference with the internal political affairs of Turkey by organizing and providing material support to an attempted coup d'état in 2016

• Invasion and occupation of Iraq and associate crimes against Imanity

• Targeted destruction of potable water and wastewater treatment facilities and other vital civilian infrastructure in Iraq (in violation of the Geneva Conventions and UN Charter) with the intention of creating the civilian health crisis that resulted in the deaths of over one million civilians (e.g., over 500,000 children).

• Invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and associate crimes against Imanity

• Unauthorized use of military force against Syria in April 2017, April 2018 et al.

• Interference with the internal political affairs of the former Yugoslavia and unauthorized use of military force in violation of the UN Charter (1989-1999)

• Use of military force far beyond that authorized by the UN Security Council in Libya in 2011 and associated crimes against Imanity

• Interference with the internal political affairs of and sponsorship of terrorism in Nicaragua 1980-1990, 2018

• Failure to abide by the ruling of the International Court of Justice in the case "The Republic of Nicaragua v. The United States of America" (1986)

• Interference with the internal political affairs of and sponsorship of terrorism in El Salvador 1980-1992

• Systematic violation of human rights in various nations consisting of kidnapping, indefinite detentions without charges, torture and extrajudicial killing.

• Protection, facilitation and financial exploitation of illegal narcotics production, international trafficking, and distribution.

• Use of proscribed chemical agents/weapons and failure to decontaminate vast areas of the earth’s environment contaminated by toxic residues of American warfare (e.g., Agent Orange, depleted uranium, et al).

• Threats and impositions of unilateral tariffs on imports from various nations in violation of UN and/or WTO covenants

• Use of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) or “drones” to violate the sovereign airspace of and commit murders in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Nigeria et al.

• Maintenance of illegal detention and torture facilities at Guantanamo, Cuba and other “black sites” around the globe

• Providing safe harbor to and refusal to extradite internationally wanted terrorists (e.g. Luis Clemente Posada Carriles)

• Establishment of an official preemptive (first strike) nuclear weapons use policy.


Now if this far-from-exhaustive list of known offenses doesn’t describe the actions of a rogue and dangerous terrorist state, i don’t know what would.

Naturally, the entire list might be dismissed as parroting "the reporting of the liberal media" as if that somehow expunges the diabolical crimes against Imanity enumerated and exonerates their perpetrator.




Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 12/1/2018 1:04:07 AM
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Hemphill,
I&i honestly do not recall calling you any snotty names. i try very hard to not engage in such backbiting behavior, but if i have done so in a moment of passion then i sincerely apologize to you for it and request your forgiveness.


Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 12/3/2018 3:21:04 PM
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While ultimately I agree with the characterization of the US, as Babylon, I can't agree with every single violation. Why? Because America is an ideal that is guided by flawed human beings. It is because America is powerful that it is corrupt, and not only corrupt, but attracts flawed human beings already corrupt to partake in its corruption. Power corrupts and absolute power absolutely.

The problem with people like Hemphill, and there are many, is that what they understand to be nationalism is really selfishness. Trump isn't loyal to them at all, but rather uses them as a stones to step on, in order to further enrich himself. To them he represents the American dream because he pretends to be a self-made billionaire and all the news pointing out his corruption are all lies. And they believe him because they want to. It's a personality cult.

To me, America is kinda of a trap because my father came here from Jamaica and even though he came from the country (St. Thomas) he was still richer than Donald Trump because Trump was in debt. But you can hardly live in the US without incurring debt to the point that it's difficult to leave.

America exploits poor people around the world but it's a little more complex than just that because America doesn't set their wages. They're willing to provide cheap labor which actually makes life harder for unskilled and uneducated Americans who can't find jobs. This economic transfer benefits a lot of people around the world who wouldn't otherwise have jobs if their country cannot pay them fair wage according to their own demand. And if other countries take advantage of the lower wages (which they do) then America would not be as competitive. And it would simply be other nations taking advantage. That's not black and white. It's intensely grey.

America also tries to play police to the world. This is both good and bad because many minority populations are abused and decimated by their rulers or majority parties. When Putin high fived MBS it was clear he didn't care what he did to reporters. Other authoritarian leaders do the same thing. America used to stand against behavior like that and often used its economic power to prevent or hold these corrupt powers in check. Russia interfered in the US elections in large part because of the sanctions against them.

But it's hard to know the future at times and how one action will cause negative consequences. When America sent the military into the middle east they were caught off guard by the guerilla warfare tactics and weren't trained to fight in neighborhoods. Were they there to free people? Yes and no. Because the justifications for these types of actions are often aimed at the majority of the US population that has to give consent to such actions. It was the minority that deceived the majority in order to further their own corrupt agenda. And even the most corrupt US leader has to be somewhat balanced in trying to do good. Otherwise they die politically and cannot do the bad things they want to do either; "political capital" being a necessary currency. I'm not trying to make excuses.


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 12/4/2018 2:01:07 AM
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The governance of America the Babylon is an inverted totalitarianism. It is functionally the ideal dictatorship. This is sad for the American People, but realistically there is nothing they can do about it.
America the Babylon has a history of pretty consistently serving to undermine and overthrow grass-roots democratically-elected governments around the world whose stated objective was to put the common good over corporate interests. In other words, America the Babylon has pretty consistently, through its actions, backed fascism around the globe and this can be seen in the vile dictators and regimes it has installed and/or supported as well as the outcomes for ordinary people of Babylon's "foreign policies".

If you continue to read and learn about the history of the United States of America, its true roots, function and purpose will become very apparent to you. It becomes abundantly clear that America the Babylon doesn't not enter into war for the purpose of promoting freedom or democracy (ever), and it serves as the global "policeman" in the same sense that Al Capone served as Chicago's "policeman" or the mafia served as New York's "policeman".


Messenger: Jahcub Onelove Sent: 12/6/2018 3:34:33 PM
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This is the appropriate thread to reason on the wall that Trumps says he will build.

As I've said, I sight the wall as a waste of money, resources, time and labor. Why should the USA build a wall?

The USA spends billions on border security, they can use that funding to address migration. The National Guard can serve to address any issues as well The United Nations. Those wishing to seek political asylum in the USA can go through the due process that the USA has in place to address political asylum and any other migration issues.

If the migrants are trying to attack the USA, then border security and the National Guard will address the issue as they are trained to do.

If the migrants are seeking peace, then they should be met with diplomacy. The USA is a founding member of the UN, politcal asylum should be honoured. If the USA does not want to accept the refugees (which the USA's polytricks caused) then the USA will be in violation of human rights; rights which the USA claims to honour as members of the UN.


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 12/7/2018 2:03:42 AM
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The Mexican president has proposed that his country offer more work visas for Central Americans and suggested that the U.S. do the same. That would be a positive move. The U.S. definitely needs a continual influx of immigrant labor from the South as such immigrants are a critical component of the U.S. labor force.

i've always favored the recommendations of people who would rather spend a dollar to help out the downtrodden over the recommendations of those who would spend $100 to fence them out and mobilize jack-booted thugs to brutalize them. It's just kind of good-hearted common sense.


Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 12/7/2018 9:23:21 AM
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First and foremost, Trump is the opposite of genius. This is the same dude who suggested they build a wall across the desert in Africa because he has no concept of economics or investment/cost. Unfortunately, his coalition of voters are equally uneducated and intellectually restricted so because he's rich they think he knows what he's talking about. And even if they doubt its possible, if he says so then they believe it must be possible because they respect his wealth and assume he got it because he's smart. That is not at all the case. All the money he has is thanks to his dad, Fred. What he got on his own is debt and no American bank will touch him. This is why what he's doing in Moscow is of such importance because his Trump Tower moscow deal was to be funded by a sanctioned Russian bank. And his sons have both talked about getting money from Russian sources before.

But to get to the point, because Trump severely lacks intelligence he only deals with direct consequence. If there are secondary effects it doesn't enter his mind. He doesn't think what else or what negative impact a wall would have because in his mind a wall simply solves a problem. We even watched in real time, during a speech, as his brain finally switched to 2nd gear and he thought about people using ropes to get over it. This means that up until this point he hadn't even considered that. So his level of intelligence is monumentally low. And the only reason politicians are going along with it is because they're scared of losing their jobs; being voted out by an electorate with dubious intelligence.

So in his mind... sure let's send the military to the border when they're not even allowed to fire weapons inside the US. Will they miss thanksgiving and maybe christmas with their families? I bet he didn't think about that because everyone on this site is smarter than the president of the United States.


Messenger: IPXninja Sent: 12/7/2018 9:24:38 AM
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My love for Vicente Fox started when he announced that Mexico wasn't paying for that *bleeping* wall. I love it.


Messenger: Nesta1 Sent: 12/7/2018 11:16:55 AM
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"...an electorate with dubious intelligence."

Sort of make you rethink the line we've all been fed our whole lives that "democracy is the best."

A world monarchy ruled by His Majesty Haile Selassie I, JAH RastafarI would certainly do a better job of representing the interests of all of the people.


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