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Robert Nesta Marly the long awaited Messiah

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Messenger: Har-Tema Sent: 1/8/2016 7:27:21 PM
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We were never fashion by the annunaki... It was us the annunaki who created the adamu or adapa etc. The sumerian were anglo saxon or white people with blue eyes as you can clearly see in there community and portraits BUT THERE GODS WERE BLACK..

HOTEP


Messenger: RastaGoddess Sent: 1/8/2016 7:49:59 PM
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In regards to "white Sumerians", I'll have to reserve further opinion on that until more research, however, when "blue eyed/red haired" Sumerians are mentioned, I can't help but remember that this phenotype is also common among InI.

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will do a little writing on the Egyptians side of the name Ras Tafari Makonnen and Qedamawi haile Selassie and you will see this truth. The real meaning behind these names. I will share it on the forum

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Looking forward to that! Give thanks for the VERY INTERESTING reasonings!


Messenger: jessep86 Sent: 1/9/2016 12:02:22 AM
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The Messiah? yes, we are all members of HIS body, that is who truly knows them self, Inity.

Thanks for the complex truth of Bob, true faith/kmowing needs no such evidence tho

Sembet Salem(sabath peace)
Unity is Strength
One Love


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/9/2016 5:43:48 AM
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We discussed the ring on here before and I see there is no proof of such a ring. Thousands of pictures of His Majesty and no one with the same ring on? He may very well have the ring from His Majesty..... But again another example of how many of us are quick to accept any information without critical appraisal.

Same with the annunaki. You are using esoterical knowledge and applying it literally re:the dogon and you are using one of millions of African traditional creation stories and applying it globally as a matter of fact truth? Show me in kemet where they see we were here forever because they have clear stories of creation that beg to differ. Rastafari deal in reality. Us being here forever or since creation is an esoterical piece of information iah look deeper than you are doing, human beings were not here forever in this form when we know the sun the stars the moon and everything around us has a finite date. Even the bible believers acknowledge a 'creation'.......... Lol so which was it creation? Or always here? Done with the fantasy and mythos. Africa is the birthplace of humanity. Bob Marley did not venerate himself in the way you did. Peter tosh was as influential, at least among Africans globally as Marley so why he always overlooked?

I prefer to study real issues whe I can see like the favouring of light skin white skin artist such as Bob to even a messiah level now........ Where same old story for the black artist dem. But de I dem will overlook this and agree with the I Bob a messiah based off of feeling and belief. A so it go

Most high


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/9/2016 6:01:04 AM
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King I'm very selective with my information. The fact de I still use name like Osiris when dealing with kemet and claiming to be knowledgable on such matters is my first warning sign. De I still made the claim that EVERY AFRICAN story of creation says we come from the stars, which is the type of blanket statements people who have really studied a variety of African cultures rather than one or two wouldn't make. What about the potters wheel? As a one example. And tell me were they LITERAL with this creation story too?? A real potter? Lol

Now Bob Marley father...... The no good colonial whiteman in dem time deh you are saying was aware of the linguistic connections you put on the name Nesta? The ancient Hebrew and everything? King........ You say we will never know if he was conscious of it or not but you literally based half your reasoning off of that.... Based off a 'never know!'

You mentioned Lucy. Scientist do not need a complete fossil to analyse DNA much lesssss mitochondrial DNA. This shows your ignorance in the sciencEes. You are very wrong if you think only white people are analysing DNA and using different systems to date things. This isn't 1900s anymore. I can point you toward some African conscious scientific studies on such subjects if you like. I am aware of the bone lies with His Majesty but de I can't use that to now rule out all of science and DNA testing from thereon, what logic is that?

De I have a good spirit. But InI free to challenge de information in reason

Bless


Messenger: Eleazar Sent: 1/9/2016 8:22:38 AM
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What about King Emmanuel 7th?

I like bob marleys music but I don't sight him as a messiah, just a messenger of Rasta.


Messenger: RastaGoddess Sent: 1/9/2016 10:03:32 AM
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Regardless, aside from a few points that ini may not necessarily agree with, or sight up in the same way, this reasoning/thread is much more thought provoking then the same old bible or scriptural regurgitation that seem to prevail. Though ini prefer using the Afrikan names, the use of the Greek name Osiris isn't enough for I to completely dismiss the entire reasoning. Though I dare assume Bob's mother wouldn't have been conscious of the linguistic history and etymology of "Nesta", it was an interesting word sound nonetheless. Perhaps it's just me and my love of linguistics...and, thankfully, the wisdom to not take the metaphoric literally.

In regards to Marley, one cannot deny the fact that being light skinned played a major part in the record industry placing him as the central figure, facilitating the "cross over" phenomenon created by a racist system, including the music industry. Peter was Bob's teacher! A true musical warrior! The "Malcolm X" of reggae! A messenger in his own right.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/9/2016 4:33:05 PM
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Greetings sistren. I too enjoy this reasoning more than a bible regurgitation!

No I agree using grecoroman false translations of the names of the neters is not enough to dismiss the rest of information but it does crucially make light of where you are getting your sources of Egyptology from. The dismissal comes from statements such as 'all African cosmologies say we come from the stars' as the basis of proving a very esoterical point. Also with the matter of fact approach of writing such as if Nesta means this in German, or Nesta means that in French, then this MUST mean the one named Nesta is such. This wasn't to dwell on the Nesta isssue (the trivial part of i reasoning) but to exemplify the 'rigid' and 'factual' approach the author chooses to attach to circumstantial and inferred information. Much of my reservations wouldnt have been if the author had just presented the information as it is and leave any inferences up to the individual. But the thread name Bob Marley the long awaited Messiah......... To venerate any one man up to a messiah level outside of His Majesty is inviting the information and conclusions formed to be challenged. All of which is a joy of reasoning.

Dr John Henrik Clarke once said as Black People we need to stop with the wishing for a messiah mentality as a byproduct of slavery. I have to agree. You are your own a messiah. Mess-IAH. I paraphrased Dr Clarke I wonder if anyone remembers the exact wording or reference?

Finally. Ones are free to Ites up Marley all they like. I have seen many groups do this including to the level of the 'true and living Christ.' I have to say I have never seen anything near the same level of veneration from these groups toward ANY black reggae artist. Eek a mouse spoke on this in his now classic stage walkout from Carifest, but he had a real point. Ras vaughn even agreed (I think - his response was cryptic as always)

Blessed reasonings


Messenger: Har-Tema Sent: 1/9/2016 6:06:42 PM
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OK lets stick on the subject of the matter regarding the Messiah and stay on Planet Earth, excluding the Extraterrestrials (ET aka Ethiopians/melanated beings) for awhile.....

Bob's white father didn't have to know the significant of the child because like Joseph of the New Testament he played a tiny role and Like christ or Heru, Bob is the son of his mother or "son of a woman", prophesied in Genesis that the seed of the serpent would bruised the seed of the woman's heel (foot).... Now lets asked the question if we're looking at the story in a literal context, was Jesus ever bruised by the heel or foot? Oh yeah he was nail to the cross but he was also nail in his hands... This "bruised" is significant because Job was the only person in the bible who was bruise from the sole of his feet. Now lets look at Job.18:8-10...
"For he is cast into a net (boots) by his own feet, and he walketh upon a snare (trap). The gin (foot-hold trap/trap of wire) shall take him by the HEEL (foot), and the robber shall prevail against him. The snare (trap) is laid for him in the ground, and a trap for him in the way"
This verse clearly shows how a "Gin" shall take him by the heel. Gin is a Foot-hold trap which can figuratively be seen as what happened the Bob. We read that after Bob was shot he was escorted into Christ Blackwell's hideaway in the Blue Mountains of strawberry hill and was guarded by not only the Police dept. provided by Michael Manley, but also by some rastas with machete. At this very moment just a day before the smile jamaican concert Carl Colby, son of Ex CIA director William or Bill Colby, gave Marley a gift in the form of a pair of boots just like how the Kemetic God Set gave Asar a gift in the form of a Coffin at his Banquet etc. Carl Colby was apart of the camera crew that was hire by either Blackwell or Don Taylor (Bob's manager) to film the concert. Keep also in mind that Neil Bush, son of the ex present of USA and ex CIA director George Bush Sr, who replaced Bill Colby in 1976, also made his way to Marley's hideaway in the mountains disguised as a rolling stone reporter as well.

Now lets go to the Book "Chanting Down Babylon: The CIA & The Death of Bob Marley" by Alex Constantine
"While the band prepared for the concert, a gift was delivered, according to a witness at the enclave – a pair of boots for Bob Marley. Former Los Angeles cinematographer Lee Lew-Lee [his camera work can be seen in the Oscar-winning documentary The Panama Deception] was close friends with members of the Wailers, and he believes that Marley’s cancer can be traced to the boots: “He put his foot in and said, ‘Ow!’ A friend got in there… he said, ‘let’s [get] in the boot, and he pulled a length of copper wire out – it was embedded in the boot. Had the wire been treated chemically with a carcinogenic toxin?”
Psa 118:13 "Thou hast thrust (pierce) sore (skin cancer) at me that I might fall."

Now we know for a fact cancer can be induce.. Look at how they tried to kill Fidel Castro by inducing cancer within his toothpaste/cigarette and the same with Hugo chavez of Venezuela. The article below tells you all about how the CIA used cancer as a weapon so to the public it seem these men died of natural cases...
https://alexconstantinesblog.wordpress.com/tag/cancer/

Even David who supposedly wrote the psalm prophesied how the messiah would be trap..
Psa.140:5 "The proud have hid a snare (bird trap) for me, and cords (wire); they have spread a net (boots/boot laces) by the wayside; they have set gins (foot-hold trap/pair of boots with the copper wire hidden inside) for me. Selah."

Now lets look at how Jesus wasn't the messiah to begin with but the gospel of matthew tried to fit him into the prophesy of Isaiah..
Matthew 8:17 "That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses (diseases)." Matthew is illustrating that Jesus heals the sick and not HE himself was inflicted by disease, yet in Isaiah when translating these words in the original language of hebrew/aramaic we see that the Messiah WAS sick etc.

Suffering Servant...
Isaiah 53:4 "Surely he hath borne (bear) our griefs (Hebrew word choliy means disease/sickness), and carried our sorrows (pain): yet we did esteem him stricken (Naga=plagued/infected with leprosy or skin disease), smitten (wounded) of God, and afflicted."
The word "Griefs" in this passage refer to the hebrew word "holi or choli" meaning sickness or disease and the word "Stricken" in hebrew is Naga literally means 'becoming touched' i.e by skin disease or leprosy. In the ancient near east, leprosy was a sign that someone had 'become touch' by a demon. In the Bible, too, skin disease, 'mesora' was often a sign that God was angry with a person and had 'touched', i.e. punished, him in this way

So this alone proof socalled Jesus was NOT the messiah as the jews (israelis) are still looking for him...

But Marley fit this quite perfect I would say...

And me using such name as Osiris (greek) doesn't matter one bit because we know greece was a black nation (probably a colony of Kemet) and the head god Zeus was known as Ethiops or Aethiops.

For Instant it is said Kemit came from the south of the nile so that makes Nubia father to Kemit and Punt it's grandfather. Punt being modern day Ethiopia, Eritrea, djibouti and somalia (puntland) and this is already proven as fact. So this means their language a related. Lets see... Heru in Amharic (Ethiopic) is "Heruy" meaning chosen one and egyptian god Thoth in amharic is "Thut" in amahric means Humble. Even in amharic ASAR means Ten.

Hotep



Messenger: KnowThySelf333 Sent: 1/9/2016 6:21:32 PM
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" OK lets stick on the subject of the matter regarding the Messiah and stay on Planet Earth, excluding the Extraterrestrials (ET aka Ethiopians/melanated beings) for awhile....."

What do you mean?

Bob marley was black and Identified as a black Ethiopian.


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