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Messenger: African_Warrior_King Sent: 11/30/2015 2:22:46 PM
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Greetings iya from Africa Blessings to all in the name of IYesus Kristos.
Feel free to Reason how the I feel or overstand about how to follow IYesus Kristos!
Let everyone share their sightings and lets all Fellowship for The Bible says, when two or more gather in the name of Iyesus Kristos, IYesus Kristos is there. Freedom of thought view and speach my people!


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 11/30/2015 8:21:04 PM
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For I, this Reasoning is the root that will make I and I stop following and instead Live.

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People Blind to Oneness

I can't Iverstand that 2000 years after Christ taught I and I to be One with God, that people still completely ignore this teaching.

People are missing the most important message that Christ had for I and I. All the righteousness that is required from I and I would be fulfilled if I and I heard and Lived by this message. When you are One with God, Jah is directing all your movements and you trod with the guidance of Jah.


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I see Eashua Christ as One with God, Haile Selassie I as One with God, and all that live by the example of God as One with God. So when I say One, I am not saying that Eashua Christ or Selassie I are higher than Jah. I am saying that they are One, with no separation. One has no division. So they can't be seen as three heads of a council, standing beside eachother, because that is not One. To be One with Jah, a man must go to Jah, and join with Jah. They must live by the direction of Jah, through the Spirit of Jah.

Who is RasTafarI?
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When I have told some people about Christ's message to be One. The statement I most often get is that Christ meant One as meaning in agreement with the principals that God teaches. These people only see One in part, they don't see the fullness of One.

The One that Christ is speaking about is One in completeness, with no separation. And Christ knew that people wouldn't want to hear this message and if he just said be One with God, they would have changed and rearranged what he said to make it sound like less than One. So Christ repeated himself and elaborated and said it different ways and explained it in more detail and even gave them a frame of reference of how they were to be One. The frame of reference was to be One as Christ is One. But still people have changed and rearranged and cannot believe what Christ is teaching.

To believe this teaching from Christ, people would actually have to take responsibility for their wickedness and admit to theirself that they are cursed by their own wickedness. And that the way for them to be saved is by Living by the example of God, the example shown by Eashua Christ and Haile Selassie I and Holy Emmanual I. But since people can't face this and love their wickedness too much, they claim that they are saved by the murder of Eashua Christ. They don't realize that they aren't saved by the murder, but by the teachings that led to the murder, the teachings that were the reason for the murder.

The rest of this message will be speaking about the scriptures where Christ showed us that we are supposed to be One with God in the same way that He is One. Christ tried so hard to show people what we are supposed to be. Christ repeated Himself and said the same thing in so many different ways so that there would be no doubt as to what he was saying because he knew that people would try their hardest to ignore this message, so he tried to make it impossible to ignore.

My message will also be extremely repetitive because 2000 years of repetitiveness has still been unseen by the blind eyes of the people. So hopefully a few more eyes can be opened, and people will strive to Live by the example of God and become One with God, instead of criticizing others for the ""blasphemy"" of saying they are God, or criticizing others for the ""blasphemy"" of saying someOne else is God. They are fighting against something they are supposed to be.

Christ explained his Oneness with God by saying "I am in the Father, and the Father in me". If Christ just said "the Father is in me", or if he said "I am in the Father", then it can be seen that there is a connection, but they can still be separate. But Christ said, "I am in the Father, and the Father in me". If you picture this in your mind, then you can see that it can only mean that they are One, because how else can Christ be in the Father and at the same time the Father in Christ?

Christ also said, "I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you" So by the same reasoning above, the only way Christ can be in someOne and at the same time that someOne to be in Christ is for them to be One. And if someOne is One with Christ and Christ is One with God, then they are also One with God, and that is why Christ said all three together in that statement.

Christ Itinued to tell I and I a few more times.

"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me."

"I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. "


Christ then prayed to the Father asking Jah to make his people One with Christ, One with God.

"Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are."

So for those that weren't convinced by Christ saying "I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you", Christ elaborated more and said "that they may be one, as we are." Christ showed that the Oneness that He wanted for I and I was not a different kind of Oneness from what He has with God, but that it is the exact same Oneness. I and I are supposed to be One with God, in the same way that Christ is One with God.

And if that was still not enough, Christ Itinued and said,

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.


Christ asked for all that listened to His teachings and Lived in them to be made One with God, that they "all may be one". And again Christ showed that the way I and I are supposed to be One is "as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee", the exact same Oneness that Christ has. And then Christ said, "that they also may be one in us", The us Christ is refering to is the Oneness of Him and God, and he wanted I and I to be One in Him and God.

And if still that wasn't enough, Christ said:

"And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:"

God gave Christ the Glory of being One with God and Christ was giving this same glory to I and I so "that they may be one, even as we are one" again showing that the standard of Oneness is the Oneness that Christ has, "even as we are one"

And just in case people still missed the message, Christ said:

"I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me."

Again repeating the message of Oneness, connecting I and I, Christ and God in One "I in them, and thou in me". And if people still think that he is speaking about less than Oneness Christ said, "that they may be made perfect in one" Christ showed that this Oneness for I and I is not a partial Oneness, or incomplete Oneness, or almost Oneness, but this Oneness that Christ wants for I and I is a Perfect Oneness.


And finally

"And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them."





Here is a reasoning I made before about this:
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Christ is One with Jah, RasTafarI is One with Jah, and all that live for Jah are One with Jah. One is one in completeness, there is no separation in One. So Christ is Jah, RasTafarI is Jah, and all that live for Jah is Jah. One is what Christ told I and I to be, and is what Christ asked Jah to make us be.

John 14
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John 15
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

John 17
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.


Jah Iternal Blessings,


One
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Messenger: African_Warrior_King Sent: 12/1/2015 9:50:34 AM
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Blessed Love Ark I
its a blessing to have people like you come and explain a topic like this in a more simple way. I n I overerstand your context fully and for I n I n I n I brethren out there i would like you to further open up a new topic on how to Follow IYesus Kristos what one should do, how one should walk, how one should speak. how to attain onness through the word of God in IUesus Krisyos.
Love and Onness in IYesus Kristos!


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 12/1/2015 6:54:06 PM
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Idren, if the I go to "Other Itations..." in the Itations link at the top of the page, or click the link below, the I will see several Reasonings related to the Bible, and other Reasonings. There is even a section specifically about the Bible.

Itations

Idren, I only hear the I say IYesus Kristos. Did the I forget about Haile Selassie I? I never Sight the I say Haile Selassie I name even once.




Messenger: reasoningtime Sent: 12/2/2015 10:12:25 PM
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Messenger: jessep86 Sent: 12/3/2015 1:47:24 AM
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The introduction of Christianity as the state religion marked a turning point in Ethiopia history. Christianity does not constitute a purely religious phenomenon on the country, but plays an integral role in all aspects of national life. The Church is not only a religious institution, but has for many centuries been the repository of the cultural, political and social life of the people. The true feeling of the people who first received Christianity seems to have been expressed in the names they bestowed upon Frumentius, which are Abba Salama. Kassate Berhan, “Father of peace and Revealer of light”. It is interesting to note that Ezana and Saezana appear to have baptized with names also signifying illumination – Abreha (He illuminated) and Atsbeha (He brought the dawn).



In Ethiopia, the diffusion of Christianity did not follow the same pattern as in the Graeco-Roman world, where Christianity was confined to the lower levels of society for three centuries, and utterly rejected by the ruling classes. Only at the beginning of the fourth century did it begin to gain a few converts among members of the imperial family. In Ethiopia the converse was true. Christianity was introduced first in to the royal court, and from there gradually penetrated among the common people. Likewise, in the Roman Empire, the Apostles and later the Church fathers were actively engaged in the evangelization of the people; in Ethiopia, Christianity was voluntarily adopted.


Most interesting to I is how Christianity came as a centralizing, organizing, ralling point for Ethiopias diversity to be gathered I unity and strength all the different parts-egions-creeds brought into one body , one Ethiopia, one solid foundation for All to express and live upon righteously..Love and Onness in IYesus Kristos!


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 12/3/2015 8:42:46 AM
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The fact it was adopted by the King first and then disseminated to the public for me is LESS favorable then how it happened in Rome. We don't know what the intentions of the king and reasons for his adoption were. We don't know if they were sincere or as a means of control or whether he was under any influence. But religion being formed by 'common peoples' among themselves for me is not as detrimental as religion being sent down from the government / crown. Also, it has been documented that there was a (foreign) christian presence in Ethiopia before Frumentius and Ezana.

Note: I wonder if the King before Ezana had the power of retrospect, would still have free'd Frumentius and his family from slavery if he knew it would lead to the eventual collapse of traditional Nile Valley spirituality

That being said, with Ethiopian Christianity, I believe the fact they have interlaced it with tradition, ritual, metaphysics and mystery from the pre-christian days (see the Abba Keddus book on sacred origins) has helped its initial acceptance and continuity. And why it will always hold more weight than the worldly version of christianity.


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