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Messenger: Prophet John Sent: 7/7/2014 3:42:28 PM

Then please enlighten me.... I said most of the similarities between the two forms of slavery so please differentiate other than Africans are still here and Native Americans aren't.

Messenger: Prophet John Sent: 7/7/2014 3:44:40 PM

You lost your last names?
You lost all family ties?
You dont still live on the land?

UMMMMM..... Answer to all of those are yes for native americans too. Please show me a difference not more similarities.

Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 7/7/2014 3:46:20 PM

What happened to the native africans there before columbus? The idea of the red man alone is historically wrong.

But like I said, to compare to what those west africans went through is counter productive and crazy

Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 7/7/2014 3:53:05 PM

Your numbers dont add up. Hundreds of millions, not thousands
You werent dispatched across the trans Atlantic
You still live on the soil of the Americas
You still overstand and maintain a connection with your culture

But im not doing this. Its counter productive and only benefits white supremacy. Yes the white man has to answer to his crimes to your peole too. Of course

But nothing has been seen comparable in history to the African transatlantic slave trade. Fight the historians whe say dat. And I and I nah stop say black upliftment N reparations

Messenger: Prophet John Sent: 7/7/2014 4:09:26 PM

Garveys Africa... there were millions of Native Americans all wiped out. The only thing you have mentioned so far that is different is the Native Americans weren't dispatched across the trans Atlantic, they were already there so no need to send them anywhere.

You are mistaken though there aren't any pure blooded natives living in America and the few areas that have higher then normal percentages of Native DNA are living in concentration camp ghettos. InI only overstands and maintains as much a connection with Native culture as African culture.... so minimal it isn't funny

The reality is this is all evil done by Satan against Yah's chosen people. InI am no way belittling what has happened and is happening to the African people, but the same has and is happening to the native americans. InI share the same story with the same protagonists and same antagonists. Please realize we have more in common then we don't.

Honestly if you want "whitey" to pay.... there is nothing that can be done to make up for what has happened. No amount of money and no amount of punishment can undo these atrocities. Even Selassie said we must live WITH our former slave masters in harmony.

We must live in peace with our former colonisers, shunning recrimination and bitterness and forswearing the luxury of vengeance and retaliation, lest the acid of hatred erode our souls and poison our hearts. Let us act as befits the dignity which we claim for ourselves as Africans, proud of our own special qualities, distinctions, and abilities. Our efforts as free men must be to establish new relationships, devoid of any resentment and hostility, restored to our belief and faith in ourselves as individuals, dealing on a basis of equality with other equally free peoples.

Messenger: Sister Sent: 7/7/2014 4:19:00 PM

Give thanks GA for the presentation, heavyweight. America is a unique culture, and one most influential in the world for better or worse. I was paying particular attention when she was talking about the youths and violence and how it replicates itself, the way the punitive system compounds the behaviours, I see it close up. The way I see change is to become aware of it, aware of the injury, aware of the reaction to the injury and aware of the reaction to the reaction even. By identifying these things empowerment is gained, nothing lost, but having conscious control and not identifying with the oppressors reaction. Dr Leary articulates it in an accessible and empowering way, working through her education and disseminating through her experiences, putting word to what is known and elevating others in the process. Truly progressive. Keep your humour, though fire some want they can keep themselves warm. If slavery was an explosion, its in slow motion, no-one came to tidy up afterwards, it still moves outwards in all directions but a blessing still in self-healing.
Jah guide.

Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 7/7/2014 5:01:24 PM

Beautiful sister. Beautiful. I agree 100%. Dr leary has an updated talk if the I look to the links of 'suggested videos' from the end of the last video (I had to watch it all too) where she dress in all black against a blue screen....a dat one. I have a study group tomorrow with the same presentation from dr leary as the reasoning. Your input is highly appreciated. Jah guide and protect every time hear? LIVE UP


Messenger: VoodooRuutz Sent: 7/7/2014 9:26:12 PM

Deh is still pure blooded Native Americans, America ain jis d US u kno. Right across d border deh got pure TARAHUMARA Natives (the barefoot runners) and what the Natives went tru was bad but can't compare to d Africans dey ceh ova yah. Many Native still speak they language, hold dey culture and gods, live on at least d land mass of lands and prolly dey original land, don't pay taxes, got casinos on dey lands and some who would burn u fa sayn dey not pure. Many lost a whole lot and suffer/ed also but not comparable to Africans wha got brung yah as a whole!! On some d islands dey still got originals in tact, not to even speak of central and South America where u had tribes dat had never seen white people weh waay more African went to than d US!

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