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Messenger: 1forTruth Sent: 2/21/2014 9:16:34 AM
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Yes, when he came out of the curtains, he was dressed in all white apparel, and Empress Menen was dressed in pink and as before he sat on the throne a red cloak was placed on HIM and Her.

His Imperial Majesty, attired in white silk communion robes, entered the ceremonial hall with an escort of aides and clergy, and took his place upon the Throne. The thrilling but solemn silence gently breaks to the throaty voice of his holiness the Abuna Kyrillos:

http://rastaites.com/HIM/coronation.html

Don't be in disbelief, If InI know that our flesh, body is a vessel and cover for the soul and spirit, and if InI know that Jesus Christ is the vessel CREATED FOR THE WORD OF GOD. Then we should make a connection that a cloud is covering for the spiritual. He said that he will come in the clouds, meaning he will be in flesh, come in man, is this not true?

Check this site out, its not a Rastafari site which means it is not bias, but a Christian one

http://usa.watv.org/truth/truth_life/content_cloud.asp


We also know the bible has many metaphors and are not as direct as you will think, the Hebrew word for cloud is Anan, Old testament which is written in Hebrew speaks of Christ coming in the clouds in Daniel, The New Testament refers to the Old Testament A LOT, so their context and usage of the word cloud will be the same.

Remember that Yahweh covered the tabernacle with a cloud in Exodus, symbolic of the soon coming flesh to cover the holy sanctuary...it is written that the temples of the Most High is in you and our flesh covers it.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/21/2014 9:31:26 AM
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The word for cloud used by the Hebrews and the word cloud used in revelation are two different words with different meanings. The word cloud used in revelation is the same word used several times in the New Testament, each time referring or suggesting as related to the sky.

Hence why I suggested the blueletter bible and the Septuagint to dispel any 'errors' in mistranslation.

What I see most Christians doing is using the 'errors' in mistranslation as a cloak and shield to hide behind clear faults within the text. Put them down to misinterpretation or a divine metaphor. This is the word of god right?

They meant cloud. The Greek word was literally cloud.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/21/2014 9:46:25 AM
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Old Testament (Hebrew) for "Cloud"
H2385 chaziyz khä·zē;;;z' lightning, bright clouds
H3709 kaph kaf hand, spoon, sole, palm, hollow, handful, apiece, branches, breadth, clouds, misc
H5387 nasiy' nä·sē;;;' prince, captain, chief, ruler, vapours, governor, chief, clouds, part, prince
H5645 `ab äv cloud, clay, thick, thickets
H5743 `uwb üv cover with a cloud
H6050 `anan (Aramaic) an·an' cloud
H6051 `anan ä·nän' cloud, cloudy
H6053 `ananah an·ä·nä' cloud
H6205 `araphel ar·ä·fel' thick darkness, darkness, gross darkness, dark cloud, dark
H7834 shachaq shakh'·ak cloud, sky, heaven, small dust

New Testament (Greek) for "Cloud"
G3507 nephelē;;; ne-fe'-lā;;; cloud
G3509 nephos ne'-fos cloud


The word according to the Septuagint the oldest New Testament we currently have, straight from the original Greek translation, was as above 'Nephos'


Messenger: 1forTruth Sent: 2/21/2014 1:14:40 PM
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Like I said,a lot of metaphors, iya ites, so will over and some wont...no skygazing here, God come in the flesh, we are the clouds that ascend to the heavenly places

Psalms 135:7
He makes clouds rise from the ends of the earth; he sends lightning with the rain and brings out the wind from his storehouses

InI are the clouds that leave this earthly, wordly mindset in the presence of the The Father who is the lighting (brings forth light, enLIGHTment, ), the Son is the rain(the blessing of man) and the Holy Spirit is the wind (Jh 3:8)

but didn't u say that u don't follow the bible and that Jesus isn't real, so why would I take advice from you in regards to the bible.

2 Cor 3:5-6

Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as coming from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God,

6 who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament — not of the letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter killeth, but the Spirit giveth life.

To minister is an anointing thing in the Christian faith, one who agrees with the word in FULL and accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, you stated that the main character of the bible, Jesus, isn't real. So you must overstand that ANYTHING in regards to the bible, I am obligated to ignore.

By the way I do have the blue letter bible....

Bible states that Jesus will come in the clouds, no where in the bible did he enter this earth through a literal cloud but he did come in a womb, that prepared his flesh, for the Spirit of Jah, Gods outcovering.

In Acts it addressed the skygazers, saying why are you looking up, "Yeshua will come again the same way he did before" he will come again as a child. Isaiah 9, say the Govt will be on his shoulders, the Lamb never had the govt on his shoulders, and he confirmed it when he said "My kingdom is not of this world, if it was my ppl will fight for me" But Haile Selassie I, the seed of David according to the Flesh, who comes as the Power of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the Trinity (Matt 28:18-19), was given the govt as a child at age 13.

This coronation on Nov. 2, 1930 is the coronation that took place in the mighty heaven that Ini can't see thru InI earthly eyes, that ini Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Lion of Judah was seated on the throne of his Father.

It takes the Spirit of the Most High to decode this book, that ones disagree with

Jude 1:12 study this, People are compared to clouds
These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm--shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted--twice dead.

Before it was Greek interpretation, it was Hebrew, The New Testament refers to the old, Yeshua refered to it, which was written in Hebrew a lot...But you are free to belive what you believe as well as I am.

Its better to ask direct questions, and not open-ended ones, For example Yes or No,

Matt 5:37

All you need to say is simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.

did God use a cloud to cover his tabernacle?


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/21/2014 1:20:24 PM
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Gone it gone...



BURN JESUS

When I say Burn i mean fire as in a metaphor for Love, as in a love that burns / burning desire.

So in your metaphorical world. When I say Burn Jesus. It means I Love Jesus.



Gone it gone I say....,


So God talks in riddles and metaphors. He'd be a good lyricist. Is it always a metaphor? I wonder if they really wanted to mean CLOUD they woud have to use a metaphor for that too? Look up and see the COVERS in the sky (cover=cloud).

The art of Reaching.

Do you king, Do you.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/21/2014 1:31:29 PM
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The New Testament was not first written in Hebrew though. History is not metaphorical.

Some Christian friendly sources, since you don't deal with I words.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Jesus_Hebrew/Greek_NT/greek_nt.html

http://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2012/06/what-was-the-original-language-of-the-bible/

Think in terms of chronology, and geography.


Messenger: 1forTruth Sent: 2/21/2014 1:37:11 PM
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HOOOOOOLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDD UUUUUUUUUPPPPPP before we move on

So your telling me the whole time you said Burn Jesus, you were saying that you love HIM?

But didn't you say that he wasn't real?


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 2/21/2014 4:00:25 PM
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I was expressing divine metaphorical sarcasm. Live up king, I just don't think they meant the robes of Haile Selassie when they said cloud.


Messenger: 1forTruth Sent: 2/25/2014 1:41:14 PM
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Greetinsg this was my chapter for the day, Hebrews 12

vs. Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us,

Is clouds here still signifying clouds in the sky, or ppl?


Messenger: jessep86 Sent: 2/26/2014 2:46:00 AM
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Yes

Jesus Christ the lamb of God, come to be the living sacrifice, burn in the fire of love of The Father Jah , to be a sweet smelling aroma , that a positive vibration to Jah who is , omnipresent.

Clouds, I once on the earth ascending the sky, and then pouring blessing to earth , then ascending again, are we not water, that holds light like a rainbow and the living waters we drink and contain that message that builds structure from Jah Image and plan for INI

Do I not ascend as a cloud does from manifest to manifest, from the vast openness of deep spiritual thoughts back down yo the surface of materialism?

We must be like a cloud, balanced, it is also the pond, rising into a cloud as a vapor...
So Christ spend time up mountain praying and wound come back down, then get away from crowds to the open space above, rising in spirit to receive that refreshing purity that comes from communion with Jah in the heights, then showering the earth below, letting the waters of rainbow light pour through your crown down to us feet that BLESS the ground below thy feet blessing Zion up, establishing heaven on earth, as rain brings a oasis to the Sahara desert. Rasta Works Continuously. Irie Irits, in the ONE MOST HIGH INI




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