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It can be argued that if the children of Abraham are an allegory then the characters themselves may not be factual. Although allegories CAN be factual too they are often mythos

And then I brought the information about Abraham being possibly taken from the story of Brahma to further the argument that it's possible Abraham and his children were not literal stories of historical people

Your right about the quote.

Blessed love Kingman

Messenger: RasTafarIWork

Sent: 2/3/2019 5:23:24 PM

"Nowhere in the scriptures does it say that Abraham or his descendants are an allegory. Not that I have found.
Jah Light"
Jahcub Onelove, I give thankhs,
I will ever fight misrepresentation.

Messenger: Jahcub Onelove

Sent: 2/3/2019 8:17:51 PM

I had read a little about Abraham/Brahma Sara/Sarasvati in the past. You had quotes from many different sources. I had never heard about the Jews/Hebrews possibly being a tribe from India called "Calanians". That's interesting.

I can see where some of these sources may be from missionaries or priests that wanted to convert the Indians to Christianity. Replacing their gods or holy men/women with biblical characters.

From my own studies, I don't sight different cultures plagiarising one another, rather I see different archetypes being fulfilled. Certain roles that get played by real people, of old and present times. Like HIM fulfilling the archetype of Christ/Messiah, or Christ in His kingly character in these times.

I also sight that there are patterns in the heavens that get played out on the Earth. Honorable Priest Isaac talks about this, he mentions how we all have a star out in space and how all of us can find oir stories in the scriptures; not just bible scriptures, many of the world's scriptures.

Blessed Love King
Respect

Messenger: Jahcub Onelove

Sent: 2/3/2019 8:24:11 PM

Hon. Priest Isaac also talks about the Olmec and Kemet and how they prophecised the coming of Selassie. He relates Selassie to Osirus/Ausar, fulfilling that archetype.

I agree with you that ones don't have to read the bible to be able to sight Haile Selassie.

One Perfect Love
RasTafarI

Messenger: Jahcub Onelove

Sent: 2/3/2019 8:47:07 PM

I still don't burn the Bible. I can see why the I and others do.

I've seen an interview where Kabaka Pyramid said he used burn the bible, but now it is one of his favorite books... Others used to sight bible now they burn it...

Respect to all the I them, bible readers and bible burners. InI are all on this trod, RastafarI is our guide.
Remember each one teach one and iron sharpens iron

Big ups RasTafarIWork
Defender of the Faith

Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA

Sent: 2/3/2019 11:08:10 PM

Am I not considered a defender of the faith?

Lol I joke. I man Rastafari to the bone from birth baptized as a 12 tribe

The point is the Bible does state the children of Abraham are an allegory. And the Abraham story is not original to the Bible. And the Bible has many quotes which Rasta burn whether they know it or not such as that of the treatment of slaves. Rastafari burn slavery in its entirety, no 'sign of the times' argument

I urge all Bible studiers to enter the 'Wicked Pharoah'thread. There's an argument the Israelites IF they were a real people were either the Egyptians themselves OR actually the invading foreign ruling sect of Egypt named the hyksos and not in 'bondage'

Blessed

Messenger: Jahcub Onelove

Sent: 2/4/2019 12:50:50 AM

The bible doesn't state that Abraham children are an allegory, Paul uses them as an allegory about slavery and freedom. That those undef the old covenant are in slavery and those within the new covenant are free. Paul never states that the children themselves are an allegory.

Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA

Sent: 2/4/2019 4:08:57 AM

It literally says "these things are an allegory"

Many literalists claim this doesn't mean this is necessarily to suggest they are not actual people
But the fact remains, "these things are an allegory" in relation to the children of Abraham and Sarah, and Abraham and Hagar.

I'm not ina argument of interpretation. People will interpret how they like. And usually bible literalists will refute even the most basic of things blindly. I'm only here to state the definition of allegory and that fact that this was used to describe the two covenants of God by using the two children of Sarah and Hagar, allegorically.. meaning the story of these children have been written to represent something else and as the definition of allegory suggests..MAY not be factual, could easily be mythos. As the intention of the story of the children was to convey a separate message and not literal truth. Lets not reason circular. I havent made any of this up. Notwithstanding Abraham as a man who was likely lifted from Indian scripture of the Gods. This is also relevant. As 1 + 1 = 2. Everytime

The whole story a wobble in I estimation. You are free with others to use your own estimation

I use my brain ina comparative literature I use common sense common to I

If we want to talk historical facts. And not allegory. Then let's come out of the Bible and use history and evidence to prove Abraham. If that is too difficult, then once more I invite 1s to enter the wicked Pharoah thread and as there is an abundance of historical evidence on record for each individual Pharoah of Kemet...tell I which Pharaoh the Bible references to the bondage and then the Exodus of the Israelites....And evidence of any mass exodus, something which should be easily found (a mass movement of 100s of thousands of people) on the historical record. But many don't want to get the reasoning to DEM level deh for fear of embarrassment. The Bible warp some of unuh brain suppm fearsome. Not talking to any specific individual...GOD forbid any 1 story in the Bible or 1 character not be factual.... earth a shake for some a unuh. When actually the historical accuracy doesn't matter... isn't it about the message? As for the majority of religious text and mythos... hence why we call it mythos.

Isis I

Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA

Sent: 2/4/2019 4:31:27 AM

The Maafa tribe when first picking up the Bible believed THEY were the Israelite people descended from the Bible. I can scientifically empirically prove otherwise...

Luckily in 2019 more than ever...conscious Maafa children are waking up to this fact and going into the Panthiest Athiesm of their original cultures (pleural)

Messenger: Nesta1

Sent: 2/4/2019 12:39:12 PM

The Bible is not an essential source of wisdom from my perspective, but i do think that the Person and Teachings of Jesus Christ represent a sound code of morality that was reaffirmed by His Majesty Haile Selassie I as a cornerstone for people�s treatment of one another as well as the liberation of their minds & lives from hate, mischief, jealousy and greed.

Jesus Christ would have condemned slavery and colonial abuses of African people with the same vigor and intensity that Haile Selassie condemned racial prejudice and racism. Although i don�t recall Jesus speaking specifically about slavery as an institution, his Teachings regarding how we must treat our fellow human beings make His stance very clear.

I don�t mind if people want to toss the Bible out or rail at the horrible purposes for which Christ's Name has been invoked throughout history (including being associated with the Crusades, the Inquisition and all manner of other atrocities). What does bother me is when people fail to acknowledge the moral Teachings of Christ � especially forgiveness. Haile Selassie was impressed � as are most � that Jesus could plead for the forgiveness of those who crucified Him. It�s a heck of a mind-boggling example of practicing what you preach.

None of this is to say that the wisdom and goodness of the Teachings of Christ cannot be found in other belief systems, mythologies and/or moral codes throughout history. Just that Jesus Christ Himself should not be lumped together with all the hideous crap that has been done in His Name, as Jesus would NOT have CONDONED that hideous crap; he would have CONDEMNED it as vocally & vigorously as Garvey�s Africa condemns the Bible � actually, I'm sure even more so! Jesus was pretty blunt in His condemnations of wickedness.