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Messenger: Ark I Sent: 1/14/2014 12:21:38 AM
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Garveys Africa,

What are your views about Irits/Spirit and the Mystics that are associated with it? The reason I wonder is because the way the I, Muta and some other people speak, it sounds like you would file Irits and Mystics as supernatural imagination.



Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/14/2014 10:21:57 AM
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Depends on how one was to define Irits. What one may call 'spirit' I will call the ancestor living through I.

I am one who encompasses any and all African spirituality so long as it may serve some form of benefit whether physical, economical, psychological etc; for the African people at home and abroad.

Multiverse, multistring theories, laws of attraction, quantum physics and such..... Man is YET to fully overstand Nature. Anything beyond his reach of knowledge is commonly put down to a supernatural force. Any documented reasoning on supernatural originally comes from the brain of another human being - as a means of justifying what he is incapable to explain using the laws and realms in which he knows. One thing I do know - I am NOT about to adhere to any form of supernatural or higher level of consciousness or spirituality from outside of Africa and its Live-a-spora community.

What you also have to overstand, 'supernatural' is not a phrase commonly found or translated in the engagement of native spirituality. Recognition of the ancestors is....

To rally this back to topic; i see very little spirituality in the rereading and rereading of the same text for over 1000 years. Especially given the way the text came about. Yet rather than knowing or wanting to know the inner mechanics of exactly who wrote the bible and where each text came from; we happily indulge in ignorance and put it down to faith that it is Gods word, and we will receive the right message from it. I don't see how The Philosphies and Opinions of Marcus Garvey is less 'sacred' or 'holy' than a Ras letter from Saul to the Corinthians (Greeks)? Saul didn't address them letter to I, I am not a Corinthian. Marcus directed his book directly to InI. You see the logics?


Messenger: 1forTruth Sent: 1/14/2014 2:10:24 PM
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GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/13/2014 8:40:53 PM

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Haile selassie is a real man. Ausar has always been a God of the spiritual realm and not physical. There was never a pharoah named Ausar. There are no relics of Ausar. And the ancients never claimed this, they understood Ausar as a manifestion of the essence many now refer to as God, and the pharoah / king or queen, was the physical manifestation.

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The I is an interesting brother

Well how bout the I help I innerstand because based off what the I wrote, I take it that the I agrees with I.

Since the deity EMANATES in the MAN, how can he NOT be one with AUSAR or in the know-ledge JESUS CHRIST if the essence of the deity is manifested IN MAN?

For if the I blott out HAILE SELASSIE I is JAH ALMIGHTY, then is the I not making HIM one with Ausar?

Can the physical ever be one with the spiritual?

Is the RASTAFARI teaching of the NEW NAME a false teaching?

IS THE TEACHING of ONE GOD, ONE AIM, ONE DESTINY A FALSE TEACHING?

WHY AREN'T THESE TEACHINGS YOU PRESENT NOT MENTIONED BY LEONARD HOWELL and other PIONEERS OF THE REVELATION?

Lastly, why didn't Dr. Ben NOD and Smile in agreement when the host introduced him as an Egyptologist in this reasoning? Shouldn't he correct the host?

http://youtu.be/24KYINdqG-A




Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/15/2014 1:53:45 AM
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I think your getting my message confused


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/15/2014 1:54:41 AM
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What your failing to realise is If I see haile selassie as a God why does it have to be the Christian god? Why do I have to relate it to JC? Why not Krishna? Why not Ausar? Why not Min? Why not Mut? Why not any other ancient African god?

I simply don't deal with JC and the Christian God concept so I do not and will not equate that to haile selassie.

The ancients had many manifestations of god. Ausar was the strictly spiritual. The pharoah was also seen as a living god (similar to our outlook on HIM). The sun was also worshipped due to its contribution to life, and other manifestations too. They were different entities but shared the same divine essence. Both polytheism and monotheism in one concept. This is called duality. This duality is key and seen within rastafari.

But that does not mean I have to equate that to Jesus Christ . I don't have to relate it to anything and if I do there is no prerequisite it has to be a 'new Jesus' or Jesus come back. I have serious doubts Jesus / Yoshua ever existed. Given this history was on the outskirts of Africa again lessens my interest. I don't deal with that ideology of JC at all......

My ideology is seen in the teachings of Haile Selassie Leonard Howell Marcus Garvey and all of I prophets. If you can't see the correlation then this is your problem. I can, and have the ancestors within my consciousness at all times during I reasoning. Seen?


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/15/2014 2:03:57 AM
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And please research what Egyptology is and where it ce
From

It was started in the 1800s and was a well known attempt at hiding the black truth of Egypt and it's origins as an enslaved people with subhuman value could not be responsible for the wonders of Egypt. And if they were they must never find out! See the whitening of the pictures on the walls when depicted in classical history books, see the demolishing of ancient statutes and sculptures , the thieving of the tombs and pyramids, the incorrect translation of the Mdu ntr, the breaking off the broad African noses from the statues......... we are told the Nubians enslaved the Egyptians and the Nubians were the enemy to egypt. We now KNOW because of dr Ben and his work, the Egyptians migrated north from Southern Nubia and the surrounding areas of Kenya Sudan and Ethiopia.

So much has been covered up, thankfully much has been rediscovered and redefined by trustworthy scholars white and black but there is still much to uncover.

Why is there an Egyptology and no greekology? Franceology? Americaogy? This was constructed directly from white supremacists

Dr Ben held an Egyptology degree and studied egypt but by no means was an Egyptologist. His life mission was to dispel the lies of Egyptology.


Brother, there is sooo much information on this.....

For a debate between racist Egyptologists and JA Rogers / Dr clarke see 'dr clarke - the black Athena debate'


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/15/2014 2:09:27 AM
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Or I'd happily start a thread on the European and Arab attack and propaganda on black Kemet


Messenger: 1forTruth Sent: 1/15/2014 10:01:49 AM
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What your failing to realise is If I see haile selassie as a God why does it have to be the Christian god? Why do I have to relate it to JC? Why not Krishna? Why not Ausar? Why not Min? Why not Mut? Why not any other ancient African god?

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Now InI reached common ground, I agree with your above statement...He is the Ominipotent one

You just lost I when the I said bun the bible and Jesus Christ, and portrayed it as a universal teaching, when countless of Rastafari has read it and see HIM as the Christ returned, in works, power, and glory, made of the seed of David according to the flesh.

HIM did many things that proves he is the One God...he is known for saying Yes I am Christian, but as King I am equally Christian, Muslim and Pagan.....not only did he authorize the translation of the 1961 Revised Amharic Bible but in 1961 he also translated the Holy Quran.

Also in the Foreword of the Wise Mind of Emperor Haile Selassie, it is noted from His Grandson HIH Prince Ermias Sahle Selassie, "The values they imparted to him had been passed from generation to generation since King Solomon and even beyond to ancient Egypt and Ethiopia.

He is the self-existing one
He is the, " I am H(aile Selassi)E

Perfect love and peace to the I. RAstafari Haile Selassie I


Messenger: zion mountain Sent: 1/15/2014 2:14:20 PM
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Haile I
His Majesty is a Christian to fulfill prophecy and history just like Jesus was a Jew who practised Jewish law,then why dont the Christian do the same?
Why was He baptised if He was the Most I?Only to fulfill in perfect and to be like an other man.

But InI realise the Christness in I Majesty which are the works of the Man,not His religion because the Man seh religion is personal.If we a do so then,all the Nyahbinghi man and wombman haffi get baptized like Him


Messenger: MELCHEZIDEK Sent: 1/16/2014 12:17:59 AM
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I don't think Jesus Christ aka Selassie will accept it kindly that we burn his bibles. I mean, Haile Selassie worked hard trying to open the bible and makes it readible and overstandible for I and I, now we dicides to burn it.. Sure we can burn it, but always know to overstand it first. Because most rastas have the bible in their meditation and don't read it out load like the pastor does in the physical church who does not know what he is saying. Most rastas keep the words of the books of the bible within their meditations and always meditates the Righteousness of God and speaks up those words in reasoning with power and sound.

"Because of this personal experience in the goodness of the Bible, I was resolved that all my countrymen should also share its great blessing and that by reading the Bible they should find truth for themselves."


Jah Ras TafarI


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