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Messenger: Raybob Sent: 1/23/2014 7:38:47 PM
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As for eating animals, that was commanded to men after the flood, not before. It was after the flood that Jah told man to eat flesh of any kind.

Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
(Gen 9:3-4)

Before the flood, man was never instructed to eat flesh.


Messenger: MELCHEZIDEK Sent: 1/23/2014 8:54:05 PM
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why believe pictures that can easily mislead the Iyahs into thinking adam and eve are white.

and adam means man or men, and eve means woman. The sons and daughters of men are the sons and daughters of adam.

Lilith is fake and does not exist, so who ever wrote of Lilith is faking it.

Blessed be the Gods, Holy Prophet, Holy Priest, and Holy King,

Blessed be they for creating the heavens and the earth.


Blessed Love


Messenger: MELCHEZIDEK Sent: 1/23/2014 9:01:20 PM
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3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

So RasTafarI created the sun and moon after he created night and day. This shows RastafarI is the true light giver.

-Matthew




Yes I, Ras Tafari is the Creator and Light of this world
Ras Tafari causes things to grow, therefore grow upright in the Spirit of the Most High


Jah Ras Tafari
The Beginning without ending.

Jah Ras Tafari God of the /Heavens and the Earth.
Jah Ras Tafari is God of this universe and is God the Creator,
who made I and I in HIS Image and likeness, in the Image of Ras Tafari, he created us to be RASTA, and in the likeness of the prophet, priest and king. Holy.


Blessed Love


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 1/23/2014 11:33:50 PM
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Here is a Reasoning I made before
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The fact that people make pictures of dragons, monsters, spaceships and other things doesn't necessarily mean they ever saw one.

Look at all the artists in the world, from paintings, sculptures, movies and other mediums and how they make creatures and other things that have never been seen before.

I am not saying that the people in old times didn't see dragons or monsters, but the fact that they made a picture of one doesn't at all mean they actually saw one. Humans have a great capacity for imagination. So no conclusion can be made either way based on paintings, sculptures and other similar things.

If you look at Genesis and compare it to Evolution theory, the order of things are very similar.


[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Evolution theory speaks of the beginning of matter and space


[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
[3] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[4] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[5] And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

This seems to suggest that the light came after matter was formed, this part differs from evolution theory. I think evolution theory speaks of the light coming first.


[6] And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
[7] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
[8] And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Evolution theory speaks of the atmosphere forming around the time the waters formed.


[9] And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
[10] And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

Evolution theory says that the earth was first covered with water and one of the many theories say that at some point a lot of the water boiled away (I think from meteors and other things from space falling to the earth) and uncovered the earth. They claim that there might have been life in the waters before this but they also claim that all that life died when the waters boiled, which makes it possible that no living cell-based organisms existed before this point.

[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[13] And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Evolution theory says that the plants appeared on earth before animals.


[14] And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
[15] And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
[16] And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
[17] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
[18] And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
[19] And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

The order of this is not the same as evolution theory, it would say that the sun and stars came first.


[20] And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[22] And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
[23] And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Evolution theory also speaks of all the animals coming some time after plants were formed. And just as evolution theory speaks of animals coming first in the ocean Genesis 1:20 shows the same thing.

[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Evolution theory also speaks of man coming into being after many of the other animals were formed.

Evolution theory is just that, a theory. The differences between the order of things in Genesis and the order of things in evolution theory could be a mistake in evolution theory or genesis, I can't say for sure.

But if you look at the overall picture, both sequences of events are very similar.

Jah RasTafarI Haile Selassie I formed all things.

You said that dinosaurs weren't specifically mentioned, but almost all animals were not specifically mentioned in Genesis, only a few were mentioned by name, the rest were generally refered to as creatures.

However everything came about, Jah RasTafarI must have had a great part, how else could such an amazing system of Life be formed, which always returns to balance.
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Messenger: Ark I Sent: 1/23/2014 11:49:47 PM
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Here is another Reasoning I made before

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In Genesis, it says it took 7 days to create the universe, but that is not our day, it is the day according to the Creator.  Our day is the time it takes for one little rock in the universe to rotate once.  

Psalms 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

A watch in the night is normally a 2 to 4 hour time period.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The ratio of time is not to  be taken literally, that is why both verses each have two different ratios, and the second verse has opposite ratios.  It is basically saying that I and I can't judge God's day according to the time it takes for the Earth to rotate once.

As I Reasoned in Evolution true or false?, the order of Creation in Genesis is very similar to what the scientists say.  I don't know how long God's day is, but maybe it is the time it takes for the Universe to rotate once.

On the third day, plants were created, on the fifth, birds and sea creatures were created.  On the sixth day, animals were created, and then humans were created.  Each of those days could possibly span millions or billions of our years.

It is possible that all archeologists are lying when they speak of finding bones and fossils of small mammals, but no human bones or fossils during the time of the dinosaurs, but it is more likely that humans didn't exist during those times.

The leviathan and behemoth could have existed after dinosaurs perished. 

Scientists and other researchers are not always right, especially about the past.  Things like big bang theory are just theories, they are not known, and there are other theories that scientists have to explain the beginning of the Universe.  And the theory of a comet killing the dinosaurs is just one of several theories on how they died.

Whether Selassie I created man and other creatures spontaneously or through evolution is not really relevant, it makes no difference to I and I Trod.  Learn to Live by the example of the Most High God RasTafarI Haile Selassie I, that is a better use of energy.

In regards to this
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If humans lived in the same period as dinosaurs, then how and why did the comet kill all the dinosaurs but not us humans. If it was to alleviate us from the most likely issue, being pray to the dinosaurs, then this contradicts the belief that God is omniscient. Why would he make the dinosaurs if he KNEW they would be a threat to us? And why would he kill his own creations?
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Not everything is about you (or humans in general).  Some animals and humans eat flesh, and some don't.  And some animals will kill a human for food if given the opportunity, and many viruses, bacteria and fungus feed on and/or kill humans.    The world was created in balance and when balance is maintained, the death that occurs will be for the benefit of Life.  Some cells must die for the good of a human's structure, and new cells take there place. People may die, but they don't really die because they continue to  live by having children, that is why we exist today.


Here are some related Reasonings.

Root of Evil

Free Will vs. Destiny
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Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/24/2014 7:12:44 AM
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Please refer to which of my 6 points you are reasoning otherwise it gets confusing

I see most people referring to the light being reference to God. This doesnt work and i will show you why. The scripture says LIGHT an DARK and DAY and NIGHT were created before the Sun. Day and night.....

And further more how do you have vegetation - photosynthesis - without a Sun?

The story is 100% allegory.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/24/2014 7:14:49 AM
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Melchezidek I only put the picture there to show the mindset of people and their sub conscience.


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/24/2014 10:48:52 AM
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7) Seshet. Eve? - Was Eve wrong to eat from the Tree of Knowledge? Selassie I Jah feeds InI directly from the tree of knowledge. More knowledge, more power. The problem with plagiarism is often the 'stolen' story isn't fully understood by the 'thief' and therefore will be delivered in the wrong way.





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Seshat - Ganja - and Wisdom. Maybe a stretch, but I see it.



In Egyptian mythology, Seshat (also spelled Safkhet, Sesat, Seshet, Sesheta, and Seshata) was the Ancient Egyptian goddess of wisdom, knowledge, and writing. She was seen as a scribe and record keeper, and her name means she who scrivens (i.e. she who is the scribe), and is credited with inventing writing with her consort Tehuti.
seshat.jpg
She also became identified as the goddess of architecture, astronomy, astrology, building, mathematics, and surveying. She was depicted as a woman with a seven-pointed emblem above her head, most egyptologists are unclear what this emblem represents. Often referred to as a star or flower, this symbol is an accurate illustration of a cannabis leaf.
Her symbol is among the oldest hieroglyphs, and although cannabis is not native to North Africa, it would have grown well there—and been available through trade routes. Indications for use of cannabis and instructions for preparation are in some of the oldest medical texts in existence.



Messenger: MELCHEZIDEK Sent: 1/24/2014 11:02:48 AM
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Was Eve wrong to eat from the Tree of Knowledge? Selassie I Jah feeds InI directly from the tree of knowledge.






Are you saying Selassie I Jah is the serpent?


Messenger: GARVEYS AFRICA Sent: 1/24/2014 11:12:30 AM
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What I am saying is the story is only a story.

In terms of the Tree of Knowledge - we see this striking similarities to the story of Seshat. Unlikely to be just a coincidence given Moses is accredited to writing Genesis, and he spent 40+ years in Kemet where the above pictures are found all over the walls of various temples.

We know the Bible contains unreferenced accounts from Ancient sources. I am dealing with the fact it has been misrepresented by Moses or whoever wrote it.

Jah isn't the serpent. Jah is Haile Selassie I who promotes the acquisition of Knowledge. As did Seshat. Eat from the tree to reach your divinity.
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"Any who may wish to profit himself alone from the knowledge given him, rather than serve others through the knowledge he has gained from learning, is betraying knowledge and rendering it worthless"

"A well informed public opinion is essential to the growth of political and social awareness. Only he who is informed can comment intelligently on his nation's development and only by such comments can errors be corrected and progress stimulated"

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