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root of all evil?

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Messenger: bredren aaron Sent: 5/27/2012 7:44:55 AM
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Greetings,

Iman was listing to Bob Marley and the Wailers song Adam & Eve. In the song them say that "women is the root of all evil because Eve ate the fruit of the tree." Now Adam also ate from the tree so shouldn't it also be the same for man? Good & evil came about with Cain & Able w/ Cain slewing Abel. Cain wasn't always evil he did have some good in him (his son Enoch walked with Jah) but let anger control him, which in turn turned into an evil act of violence. It takes a man & wombman to create life so in this song InI don't think they should be pointing the finger at wombman it should also be directed towards man.


Messenger: Elohimras Sent: 5/27/2012 1:37:03 PM
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GREETINGS MY LORD
I DO NOT AGREE WITH BOB ON THAT AT ALL
I DON'T KNOW ANY WHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAID THAT
THE BIBLE DID SEH THAT THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL
THAT IS WRONG TO SEH ABOUT THE MOTHER OF CREATION
EMPRESS MENEN IS PURE
NOT ROOT OF NO ONES EVIL
BLESSED LOVE MY LORD AND EMPRESS
JAH KNOW
PEOPLE MAKE MAN PURE AND WOMEN DIRTY WHICH IS WRONG
HOLY IMMANUEL I KING SELASSIE I JAH RASTAFARI
EMPRESS MENEN I SELASSIE I JAH RASTAFARI


Messenger: bredren aaron Sent: 5/28/2012 6:48:47 AM
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InI don't agree w/ Bob on that either. You have a choice in life on how you want to be. What if Cain didn't rise up against Abel, would there still be evil in the world? The blame cyant be put solely on woman I mean my youths aren't perfect but yet aren't evil ither. Yes I, Empress Menen is the perfect example of woman with all the works she created.

Bless.


Messenger: jessep86 Sent: 5/29/2012 5:25:41 PM
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I beleive woman is not as strong as man and can be tempted easier....

We know woman was not given physical strength like a man. So maybe woman does not have spiritual strength potential as great as man.

Maybe this is why the first Rastas said woman can only be Rasta if taught by man...And why woman are not allowed to speak in the assembaly..

1 cor 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.


Woman and man both have for each other what the other is lacking....
There have been woman that are saints but much more rare than men!

Woman is weak and vulnerable and needs man protection both physically and spiritually and mentally.....In turn woman gives to man her feminine qualitys..


Messenger: jessep86 Sent: 5/29/2012 5:29:10 PM
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woman is not just weak in faith ,man can be too... Peter was tempted in matthew 26

69 Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee.

70 But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest.

71 And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth.

72 And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man.

73 And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech bewrayeth thee.

74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.

75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.


Messenger: jessep86 Sent: 5/29/2012 11:19:27 PM
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Spiritual weakness is the root of all evil....

Roots, dreadlocks, faith grow...

the root of all evil is not the root but the devil is the prince of the air and huffs and puffs and blows down all people without faith like trees without roots to keep it up....

lack of faith is the root on sin.....lack of roots is the root of sin

Grow your dreadlocks, grow your faith, let roots go soooo deep....And life ye will keep...The devil cant but out this fire, or tempt this spirit within I and I...... JAH RASTAFARI


Messenger: RasRanga Sent: 5/30/2012 3:21:14 AM
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bredren, i sight the root of all Evil to be satan and his other fallen angels. but what caused them to fall? maybe ini can reason about that.

Jah guide always


Messenger: bredren aaron Sent: 6/2/2012 7:41:05 AM
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Genesis:
Chp 6- And it came to pass, when men begain to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them.

Vs 2- That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Women have made Angels and men do foolish things even Solomon was tricked by an Egyptian women. Maybe what Bob meant in the song is that as much as man loves women that Adam had much love for Eve and he would do anything for her including letting himself be tempted.


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 6/3/2012 12:10:59 AM
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Anybody who blames their temptation on somebody else is bound to be tempted again. The root of all evil is evil thoughts and imaginations. It is a choice.

In regards to Man and Woman, this is what I say.

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King and Queen can come together in peace and harmony. Before I met I Empress I asked Jah to send I a Woman that will be strong and help I in I trod. When Jah send I the Empress I asked for I gave Thanks to the Most High Jah RasTafarI Haile Selassie I.

We have been together since 1996 and married since 2004. We have never had a serious fight, we argue a little from time to time, but it is never that serious.

The first step is the most important. Ask Jah for a Man or Woman that will be good and strong for you and help you in your trod.

Next you have to be very observant when you meet them. Pay attention to what they say and do and don't let things slip by or allow yourself to be blinded. The first person that comes your way after you ask Jah may not be the right One, or they may be. That is why it is so important to observe and study and be honest with yourself so you know if they are the Right One or the wrong person.

A person doesn't have to be perfect to be the Right One, but make sure who you choose is somebody you will be happy with even if they don't get any better than they already are. The reason I say that is because if you choose a person like that, then they will likely be a person that will get better. But if you don't choose a person like that, then there is a high chance that they will stay the same or get worse.

Another thing to remember is that it would be beneficial for you and the person to have an agreement that if one of you brings up a problem about the other, then the other shouldn't bring up a counter-problem at that time. Deal with the problem at hand, and at another time (preferably on another day) the other person can bring up a problem to discuss. Otherwise, problem calls out problem that calls out problem and argument can turn into fight.

And when they speak about a problem, first think about what has been said and put yourself in their shoes, and then react, and they should do the same if you bring up a problem. A few seconds of thinking can bring a very different response and usually a better one. Also, when one of you brings up a problem, try to bring it up at the right time. In the heat of the moment, bringing up a problem will go on deaf ears and it will be useless. But if a person waits a little, when they bring up the problem the other person will be more likely to at least listen.

And unless it is absolutely necessary, the I them shouldn't bring up a problem in front of others because that will probably cause the accused embarrasment and they will likely try to defend, and it is also more likely to become a competition instead of a reasoning. Always look for usefulness, discuss problems in a manner that will fix them, instead of way that will cause more problems.

daughter of zion(not a poem)

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If a man and woman are seeking to please Jah and Live in Righteousness then there is no first or last between them and there is no higher or lower. There is just righteousness and wickedness, so both should trod towards righteousness and if there is a difference of opinion between a man and woman, they should reason until they figure out which opinion is the Right choice or if the Right choice is a combination of both opinions or if both opinions are the wrong choice.

I will never accept that a woman has no say, and should just do whatever a man say. Many men out there are not good examples of Jah Livity, and all they will do is teach a woman foolishness. A woman should never trod against Jah RasTafarI, no matter if a man tell her to do this or that. Also, I sight that the men who don't consider the instruction and opinion of their wife will be weak. I will never refuse good instruction or correction, no matter who brings it to I. I don't have any desire to continue in foolishness because I am too stubborn to deal with what a woman say. Man and Woman come together as One, and Jah should be their guide and light. A woman often times will think of things that a man doesn't, and a man will often times think of things that a woman doesn't. So as One, I and I should rise and come closer to Jah with One mind.

A man and woman will always trod in weakness if they think that one person (whether man or woman) should make the decisions without the others input or even when the other has the choice to agree or disagree. When both people are free to bring forward a reasoning and the reasoning is discussed it will always lead to more strength, provided that they actually reason instead of just debate or argue. This way of trodding will allow both people to use their wisdom and knowledge to the best of their ability and will encourage both to think more and bring forward guidance from Jah.

I don't feel that I empress is in control of things and she also doesn't feel that I am in control of things. Both of us propose good and bad decisions and through reasoning we realize the difference between the good and bad.

The trod of I empress and I can be summed up in the vows we made to eachother at our Marriage. I have posted them before, but I will post it again because I see it as the way for a Man and Woman to trod towards Jah.

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Our Love will always grow throughout all time
We will always be One, Love without end
I ask God for Guidance to lead us in His Way
So that we Live as we should, bringing strength to each other
I will always think of you when making choices in Life
You are with me in all things. We walk side by side
I Live to raise you higher and I know you do the same
Let us rise in God’s Light, the Creator of all
By the Word of God, we are made One
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Itinual Praises unto Jah RasTafarI Haile Selassie I Menen I

Man and Woman
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Messenger: jessep86 Sent: 6/3/2012 8:49:54 PM
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I feel this last part of has relevance her and a subliminal message for the hearers of parables to hear.

The Gospel of Thomas
112) Jesus said, "Woe to the flesh that depends on the soul; woe
to the soul that depends on the flesh."

113) His disciples said to Him, "When will the Kingdom come?"
"It will not come by waiting for it. It will
not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is.' Rather,
the Kingdom of the Father is spread out upon the earth, and men
do not see it."

114) Simon Peter said to Him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are
not worthy of Life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her
male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you
males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the
Kingdom of Heaven."



What it means to be male here? I beleive it means feminine is like the earth and matter , changing and perishable like mother earth, but the masculine is spirit and eternal heavenly never changing and is imperishable ....

so it is the feminine and masculine quality within every being that we need to look at, because all life has both the masculine and feminine quality's...

Can any one list the masculine and feminine quality's?
Gotta have the right balance and relation ship between these within ourselves and without us in our relationships...

It must be a feminine quality(Eve )that gets tempted, to I and I need the masculine matching quality to not get tempted....


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