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Messenger: seeking Sent: 6/7/2004 9:05:41 AM

i am seeking the 'truth' as it exists within all overstanding of what is ... and yet i find that my sights see the placing of womyn as less than men ... why?

Messenger: the rock Sent: 6/7/2004 9:45:36 AM

that one make i think about how the people want to be free but because one has hert the other the people cant see past the phyisical,and just see a creation of the most high still made in the image of god.that adam and eve thing got the people so they have to think a certaint way about woman ,for my self i have a love for what a true woman endore for the cause.

one love

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 6/7/2004 9:31:20 PM


Men have made philosophies and situations to make woman low. But it is not so, all of I and I are children of Jah. Men and woman have different physical strength and build, and also different mental qualities, but woman is not lower than man.

Before Selassie I was Coronated. The people would first Coronate the Emporer, and then the Empress on the next day. But Selassie I changed the tradition, and arranged for the Empress to be Coronated the same day as HIM. Selassie I set the example, and men must leave behind the example of our forefathers, and deal with the example of I and I Father, Jah RasTafarI.

Ark I
Haile Selassie I

Messenger: seeking Sent: 6/8/2004 5:33:56 AM

now that's what scares me ... and afraid i have been for a while ... yes womyn are different to men, in physicality ... but to say that they are different mentally as well? how can I and I say that? where is the evidence for that? if we are saying that womyn feel openly, yes i agree ... but to say that I and I are different, given our overstanding of what exists within I and I as one, then why do I and I sight difference as reason for maintaining difference? I and I speak, we reason? don't I and I?

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 6/8/2004 9:05:58 AM


I just said that woman have different mental qualities, not a different mind altogether, just certain aspects. But this doesn't mean that one is lower than another or that we are completely different, or that woman should bow down to men, it just means that this is man and woman. I maybe should have said only some different mental qualities are different to be more clear.

Men and women display different mental and emotional characteristics, the evidence of this can be seen through observation and listening to men and women. These characteristics may be natural, or social, depending on the instance. But they are there, otherwise, we wouldn't see a difference.

Woman expressing their emotions more then men, like the I mentioned, is just one example. But there are still some men that express their emotions just as much as woman. The differences don't always exist in every man and woman, but when I and I look at the majority of women, and the majority of men, differences can be seen.

There is nothing wrong for there to be some differences between man and woman. These differences should be respected and loved. That is why we compliment each other and join as One.

I don't rule over I empress, and I don't tell her what to do, or how to act. Jah rules us both.

Ark I
Haile Selassie I

Messenger: seeking Sent: 6/9/2004 4:45:33 AM

Ark I, thank you always for clarification ... I and I am still finding ways and means of letting I and I speak, without making assumptions for him ... it's beautiful to recognise that our difference as men and women allow for compatibility, and for the further of joining and expression of I-ness ...

what I itate further on, is what we say and what we do. Often the words are loud, and much respect fills every crevice of being, yet when I and I do, we are doing different. Is that just our human failing? And if we accept that failing, are we meant to be satisfied with that?

What happens when what we overstand as our oneness needs recognition and demonstration here, in the earth realm, in the world of details? To show all I and I that as above, so below? Surely, we have taken human form, so as to be more than just that form? To overstand the limitations, and yet to move beyond it, as we overstand the power of I and I ...

My search is not over ... my overstanding remains limited ... but i am foreva grateful for reasoning ...

Messenger: the rock Sent: 6/9/2004 8:54:53 AM

Good day one and all
i see that if man and woman live as if there is no God they are going to have problems, if one has the understanding of this world, they are going to find that the world wants to tear people apart and not bring them together. men and woman are different in ways that are to compliment each other. on the other hand i have met men that walk and talk like woman and the woman that talk like the man. for the couple that can't see eye to eye (one wants to go east one wants to go west), like the PIBY say, they should go there own way so not to tear each other apart. Maybe they will come back together, maybe not. Idle time is death to all involved.
Jah Love

Luke 17
1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.
5 And the apostles said unto the Lord, Increase our faith.
6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.
7 But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?
8 And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?
9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trrow not.
10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.
11 And it came to pass, as he went to Jerusalem, that he passed through the midst of Samaria and Galilee.
12 And as he entered into a certain village, there met him ten men that were lepers, which stood afar off:
13 And they lifted up their voices, and said, Jesus, Master, have mercy on us.
14 And when he saw them, he said unto them, Go shew yourselves unto the priests. And it came to pass, that, as they went, they were cleansed.
15 And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God,
16 And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan.
17 And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine?
18 There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.
19 And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole.
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
277 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Messenger: seeking Sent: 6/9/2004 9:10:07 AM


Kaya ...

we can't always say that I and I's limited overstanding is as a result of not knowing Jah ... if I accept that I and I are divinity HERE, then I and I know without believing ... I know, as ye know that I and I are expressions of Jah ... and that's why we reason ... not to sit in judgement of others, but to oversight our own limitations ... let those who be first in line to judge, be judged ...

don't get me wrong, i am not saying that you are judging ... i am just asking if one shouldn't allow for different discourse, so as to really fully conceptualise, and italise the expression of Jah ... a drop in the ocean, has no non-standing of itself ... it IS the ocean ...

can u explain what u mean by 'this world' ....

Messenger: the rock Sent: 6/9/2004 10:05:43 AM

i am person who writes what i mean, all thow i use other words, that have been writen,i do it that why cause i just learn to write, i also do it that why because of the people, and not becuz iwant them to believe me,or i want to judge them, it cuz i want the people to look to the past and what was left to me and all you,lifes works with a noted understanding that nothing under the sun is new...


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 6/9/2004 10:16:39 PM


Seeking, about how people say one thing, but do another. This doesn't have to be so, this is the way it is because people make that choice. Here is some reasonings about Livity that might answer some of the I questions, or at least show the I what I, and what other sight about it.

Perfect Livity


Many people believe that man and woman can only live in the wicked ways, and they think it is impossible to be corrected and Live in Jah way. This is true for people that think this way, because this is their faith, so it is impossible for them to Live so. But with Jah, nothing is impossible, Jah can make I and I ways clean.


Ark I
Haile Selassie I

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