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Messenger: Ark I Sent: 5/17/2004 11:56:03 AM
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Greetings,

Selassie I say,



Rich and poor have always existed and always will.

Why? Because there are those that work and those that don't, those that wish to earn their living and those that prefer to do nothing.

Work



When I first read this speech some time ago, it made I think. Rich and poor is not only caused by some of the poor that don't want to work, but it is also caused by some of the rich who don't want to work.

Many of the rich people of the world, want to have great riches, but they don't want to work for it. So together these rich people, manipulate others to work for them for almost nothing, so they can become rich. And instead of distributing the riches to the people according to what they deserve. They give a small fraction to the people that do the work, and keep too much of the riches for themselves.

And since the amount that they take for themselves is so much more than what they deserve, it leaves the poor people of the world with nothing left for themselves.

Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


Messenger: christof Sent: 5/18/2004 4:35:44 AM
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Greetings in the name of the Most High Selassie I Jah !

I think this is really interesting, give thanks to the I for posting it. Because some might deduce from this quote, that Selassie states the poor people, the sufferers are always responsible for the bad situation they are in. This would be a rather conservative ideology, it would tie in with the view on poverty which was common in the middle ages: "Everyone who is poor is lazy. He could become rich if he had more ambition."

Now I think Ark I`s overstanding of the qoute is very true. Some might say that this is a bit far fetched but I think, on the contrary, it is obvious that the Emperor means corruption and exploitation when he sais this. Some of the big bosses let others work for them and take all the money not paying their workers adiquitly. But we should keep in mind that Selassie I is not a socialist. He is neither conservative nor revolutionary in the sense of smashing capitalism. Instead HIM is very ancient and mystical, and there is no need for HIM to deal with all the ism and shism and foolish conceptions made by man.

But, above all - He is always on the side of the poor man, of the sufferer, of the slave man, of the people of this earth suffering in this time of Armageddeon. So that is why I site Ark I`s interpretation is wise. Because if we keep in mind the background of the other speeches of HIM, we know he is fighting for those who are downpressed, and he conquers all downpression minding that all this tribulations are just part of the prophecy.

I would like to quote from another speech of HIM, which is reffering to a similar issue. HIM spoke to Babylon, giving a speech in front of the council on Foreign relations in New York, because the industrial countries ( WTO & Co ) are to blame for the situation . Because I don`t have the time to quote the whole speech, this is just an excerpt:


"On the one hand, a small group of economically and industrially advanced countries, notably your great nation, have achieved prosperity unparalleled in the history of mankind, enabling their respective peoples to maintain a high standard of living.
On the other hand, by far the vast majority of the nationsof today remain economically under-developed, their peoples subsiting in want and poverty as their normal conditions of life. In an enlightened age such as ours in which the benefit of scientific and technological advancement are being brought to bear in almost every sphere of human life, this profound gap gives rise to anxiety and concern. It is a situation that cannot and must noot be allowed to continue longer. In an era when nations gather in concert to declare each nation`s fundamental rights to freedom and equality, it is dismying that the great majority of the world`s population exists in the shadow of poverty and misery, often lacking the basic essentials of food and clothing, while their fellow men in other parts of the globe enjoy a life of abundance, comfort and tranquility. No greater victory can be won by the nations of today than the conquest of the apocalyptic enemies that still ride mankind . poverty, disease and ignorance. "

Words of His Imperial Majesty
Yes I ! Emperor Selassie I Conquer All !


Messenger: the rock Sent: 5/18/2004 8:09:38 AM
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I think Jah guides mankind from a skilled nutiring. In the beging rule of enlightment the rulers and people lived at the same level, this to me was the most highest time when those that gave the law did not put themselves above those who recieved it (Law being knowledge). This might sound strange, but it is not shocking to see the world in the state that it is in today. Poor people in my understanding is defined as people who are lacking monitary or spiritual wealth and for anyone to be one with God, him need the spiritual wealth. Man has rationalized Gods views to the point that not only christians, jews and muslims but also Rasta in sheep clothing distort the word of God.
Now Ham has lost Africa, Judah gave the word of this to come. If the law should not leave from the side of Judah, then Judah word comes directly from the mouth of Jahova. Him gave warning for the people to get together, 50 years of warning and trying to work with these world leaders. So Im not saying Ark is wrong about his postings or any one else, Im just sayin that the Rich dont control the poor, each man control his self and his own destiny, each man has been provided with the knowledge to teach another man. In the street game, most hustlers keep thier people on the streets while they sit back and collect the dough. To me all western ideologies are based on gangsterism. InI not no gangster, InI's a mystic.


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 5/18/2004 1:40:33 PM
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Greetings,

If the I them click the link and look at the speech, and the context of the quote, it can be seen that Selassie I was actually refering to poor people that don't want to work, and not rich people.

I wasn't saying that He was referring to rich people. It was just an observation of mine that the rich who don't want to work are another cause of poverty.

But Selassie I still isn't calling all poor people lazy. At the end of this same speech He says:


Whatever the task may be, man may begin it but he cannot complete it, unless God sustains and supports him. If he fails to accomplish the task on which he has set out, having worked to the best of his ability, he is not to be maligned by being called lazy.



I will respond to the I them other reasonings later when I have more time.

Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


Messenger: the rock Sent: 5/18/2004 1:59:52 PM
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I was not speaking for you or coming from your piont of view,i was writing from what i know.

one


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 5/18/2004 2:57:08 PM
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Greetings,

Yes I rock, I wrote my last post because it looked like Christof thought that I was saying that.

I was just clarifying what I said.


Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


Messenger: christof Sent: 5/18/2004 5:29:14 PM
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Greetings !

@ Ark I - I read the full speech, but now I really got your point. So it is true that the very issue this speach is dealing with is poor people not willing to work. I think the statements about work are deep and they don not put all poor people in one basket. The speech just explains the nature of work and the nature of mankind with special regard to the ability of every human being to make the best of his situation. Just as the I made it clear.

The reason why I posted a quote from another speech, which I personally like very much, is that I wanted to show Selassie`s view on poverty and the economic situation of the world in general. It is obvious that Selassie I is speaking out against those who are responsible for all the suffering and poverty, and it is obvious that people suffering from bad living conditions are mostly not responsible for this, though they still have the ability to do their best to better their situation just as it is saif in that speech.

One Jah Love ! Rejoice and Praise His Majesty !


Messenger: the rock Sent: 5/18/2004 6:31:13 PM
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jumped the GUN
seen

one love


Messenger: Ras John Sent: 5/19/2004 9:50:03 PM
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Yo Ark I thanks for that... One love

Ras John


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