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Messenger: ijah Sent: 3/4/2004 6:02:41 PM
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Zaza,why is the I generalizing all white people as one,with all the same deeds and thoughts and actions.....InI know that it is the white race what brought this bloody history to come to pass,but how can ye just judge all whiteman pon those facts??????Tell me brother..are ye fe real????
Besides,there are nuff blacks and coloreds too,whom have done wicked things....inI is in this world to see that all wickedness should be destroyed completely,so that also includes the freeing and redemtion of the black race....Do ye think that it are the blacks only that can feel all the iniquity that is done to the blacks inna the past?????
If so,than you are really ignorant

To I,you sound like one who wants a bloody revenge or so......never reward eveil with evil,like His Majesty also would say.And nah come fe tell I that Africans haffe unite first,than the unification of al colors.....If that fits your way of thinking,okee,go ahaed....
Inity and equal right and justice should be applyed to all living creatures in Iration...No partiality,evryone who wants fe join to tek part of a world with such morality,let me tell ya,them are welcome fe join InI.Me nah mind if him white,chinese,black,or whatever the color might be.Repatriation and returning to Africa is defenately one of the strifes within RasTafari,but it is certainly not the only one.There are lots and lots more...If ye know RasTafari that good as you say ye do know HIM,than ye cyant decline....


No apology,InI hail RasTafari King Selassie I


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 3/4/2004 8:30:47 PM
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Greetings,

Za-Za, you are a joke, going on with the same thing all the time. You don't know a thing about my ancestors, so you continue with your assumption and foolishness.

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And why I see you as brother like brother cause of the small suffa your people had. I say small cause NOTHING compare to African Dispora....NOTHING. 500 years my brother that a long time. And it so funny when white rasta say I didn't do nothing to your ansterors! My question is what did you do FOR them? Brother
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Small suffa my people had. What makes you think that? Your same false assumption as always. You ask what my ancesters did for the African Slaves. How could they do anything for them when we were enslaved. My people were enslaved from 1389 and under slavery for 500 years, until we fought and drove the Turkish slave drivers out of Serbia and reclaimed our country.

The Pope? My people never had alliance with the Pope, my people were never Roman Catholic, but are Orthodox Christians. The pope sent his wicked people to fight against us in World War I and II.

Selassie I is not a demon to I. People like you, the ones of babylon, with babylon mentality, they are the demons, they are the ones that try to call Selassie I a demon and take people away from Selassie I. You are in the wrong trodition Za-Za, I am sure there are plenty of racist, hateful groups you can join, but RasTafarI is not one of them. You are like the Christians, who think that the requirement of being a Christian is going to church, and they look down on others that don't. But they don't care about Christ's example and don't care about Christ's teachings.

And demons like you who try to bring this anti-Selassie I mind to RasTafarI will not succeed, but you will destroy your own self.


Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


Messenger: ijah Sent: 3/4/2004 8:49:19 PM
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....IKE THAT!!!!!!!


Messenger: Ark I Sent: 3/4/2004 9:26:42 PM
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Greetings,

Knowing you Za-Za, you will probably want to come here and say "how could you call me a demon and babylon, when just a few days ago you said that calling people names is vanity"

Maybe you would not have come and said some variation of that, but I will show the difference anyway, so that there is no question.

Speaking with vanity is speaking something without a reason. So if I just called you a demon and babylon without a reason and without evidence, that would be vanity. But I called you those things with a reason.

Because the only ones in the years of I trod that have tried to drive I away from RasTafarI with such a vile tongue like yours is babylon, and babylon is a demon. The only ones that would come and call RasTafarI a demon, are the demons of Babylon, they have called RasTafarI many things with their vile tongue. And the people that treat their brother, that didn't do them any wrong, as a stranger and outcast, and show them no love, but instead show hate, are the demons of babylon. And the only ones that speak lies about RasTafarI, and disregard the things RasTafarI says, and even tell people that what RasTafarI says and does is not the way to live, these ones are babylon that say such things.

And yes Za-Za, I run forward again to Jah. I will always run forward to Jah and always remember Jah, because Jah is I God, King, Deliverer, Guide, Shield, Sword, Buckler, Light and Salvation. Jah is the strength of I life, so yes, I will always and forIver run to I Father Jah RasTafarI Haile Selassie I, King of Kings, Lords of Lords, Conquering Lion of the tribe of Judah. JAH RasTafarI.


Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I


Messenger: Nefertiti Sent: 3/5/2004 12:30:08 AM
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BLESSED lOVE jah rasta far i

Nyabinghi.....death to white and black oppressors.....

INI site the rage and frustration of the Slave Trade. The real sin not so much the enslavement, because that going for a long time...the SIN is the European slavers barbaric when in thier, Murdering, Lying, fornicating, idolatry, Theft, Covetness of the Ancestors. Nothing in I-story more terror.......The way in which those wickded men in government and business looked pon this as legal right and chattel, no words can describe the beastiality of those evil ones. I have no comprehension, no ounce of such empathy for them slavers. That is how I site NO part of the "world arena" for reparations from them.

I do know I-story. Many ones, (color no matter) want to forget this, and others just don't want to talk about it, b-LIE-ving that it will go away. The majority ones b-LIE-ve that is is past and gone... BUT I site slaves and masters and the remanants of that in USA society. InI site that it must be brought to light NO MATTER how horrible and uncomfortable that past might be because until the undeserved shame is put where it needs to go, it just be a festering mold that be grwoig and growning. It is essential for ALL ones. Essential for the rage to be expressed and the sorrow to let out. The end of rationalization of EVENTS that took place less than a century ago must be the bodl step in healing. HEALING......

Site Za za, INI site that Reparations is NECESSARY....No one in this movement would dispute that. Reparations will not be given, they must be taken. Like Malcolm X sited that the white man is not going to give u your freedom, u have to take it. JAH RASTA FARI......It is nothing to be begging for, nor paying for, because it is free to take.

Rasta Far I is the only movement to reunite the Diaspora, and the spiritual foundation is essential, becuz the white nationalist male continues seek to suck out INI roots with his captialistic theology of religion. WICKEDNESS and Blasphemy.

It is not to save the white nationalist, but to save Beloved community....

KNOW that this white nationalism is not predujcial....they equal opportunity downpressor... Racsim is a tool that they use to DIVIDE and conquer. Not all whites are Europeans and not all Blacks are Africans......These are just names/labels that the downpressors like the ones to use to keep all ones ignorant of thier truth.

InI site that true ETHIOPIANS,(original pure man) live up, to make a world not pon the garbage heap of filth of wickedness, but to cleanse purify and rightly be the people that JAH created I as. It be bigger than the smallness of Babylon's greatness. The small number of rightouessness is more powerful than the mass fo Babylon's wickenness.

INI not VICTIMS of circumstances......because that is accepting defeat from those wicked forces that took ancestors from the land and sold and killed and raped and lied........But it is not finished for Rasta....the battle continues. It must be on INI terms....becuz to go by Babylon terms only makes the downpressed the new oppressor...the rage must be utilized in INI favor not against I. Being aware radiates an awarenss that is a light. WIked ones know what they do.. and will become omre wiceded before they are deafeated, that is why INI stronger to not be broken down.
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"A nation without the knowledge of their past is like a tree without their root"
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The history of Africa will remain suspended in air and cannot be written until African historians dare connect it with the history of Egypt....if certain Biblical passages, especially in the OT, seem absurd, it is because specialists, pugged up with prejudices, are unable to accept documentary evidence...Only a loyal, determined struggle to destroy cultural aggression and bring forth the TRUTH, whatever it may be, is a revolutionary and consonant with treal progress: it is the only approach to the universal." Cheikh Anta Diop
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"On a purely human basis the African accepts the white man. In the majority of cases it is the white man who does not accept the African. One of the reasons why the white man fears granting the African full independence is that the African may use against the white man the hateful methods he has seen the white man use against the African.

What the African hates in the white man is his unfair social, economic, political and educational discrimnatory practices which relegate the African to second- or third rate citizenship in the land of his birth. The African hates the white man's arrogance, his mania for humilating him in the land of his birth...Politically, the white man dominates the African; economically, he exploits him; socially, he degrades his human status....It is these things that the African hates and not the white man himself." - Ndabaningi Sithole
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Warriors prepare themselves to be AWARE, and full AWARENSS comes to them only when there is no more self-importance left in them. Carlos Castansda
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Tears flow from the hearts of flesh. The spirit never weeps; I am longing for the day when I will walk in light, where tears are wiped away.. emotions are the sprays that rise from human loves and hopes and fears; PERFECT BLISS cannot be ours until we have conquered these." Jesus

I must be pure and no time for making judgements of bredren and sistren. LOVE is the only law to Obey...and INI site NO ROMANtic
love...INI site love of Truth which demands correction amongnst the I-dren. Discpline does not mean to mash down bredrens and sistren, but to guide and correct with wilingness to be corrected and guided.

KNOW yourself.....Take the expereince of life to be strong and fearless and righteous.


LOVE IS THE ONLY LAW TO OBEY......JAH RASTA FAR I.......HAILE I SELASSIE I


Messenger: Za-Za Sent: 3/5/2004 9:32:28 AM
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Nefertiti you have a beautiful UNDERSTANDING ! The quote from Cheikh Anta Diop was Wonderfull. You brought a smile to my heart and face. And I know even moreso now that you truly are for African Freedom. Diop came to my city not to long ago and renforced the struggle and the fight of CULTUAL ASSISSION/AGRESSION by whites. And his qoute on the bible is the foundation of my learning and teaching of rastafari, thru AFRICAN HISTORY. And yes you do UNDERSTAND that repartations must be TAKEN!!!
And they really don't want to understand that ideaology. Again the put the blanket of oneness with all colors and etc. But as I said before its not about them and US but it about getting US/Africans right FIRST, then the world. Nefertiti your words or beautiful and thank you for overstanding the whole of my comments and not pushing out pieces of it that you may or may not agree with but for the full awareness of it.
Sorry I can't say this about others
Ijah
You are right about me in what you said when you qouted Selassie. Funny all the qoutes Ark I knows he couldn't find the one you wrote.
"African have to unite FIRST, than the unification of all colrs"
But so many want the end result without the begining process. And yes Unity and equal rights should be applied to all races. But once again this exist NOW but not to all races. Its just have to be applied to the rest of them! Rastafari and repartation is NOT the only issue in Rastafari is the most IMPORTANT and the FIRST! But again everyone wants to SKIP that part and go for unity. They CANNOT be unity until African is repaired completly! I will not be in unity with ANYONE outside of MY culture and people, without FIRST getting my people/AFRICANS RIGHT!

As for you Ark I and going back the equality and unity. Did Serbs have a chance to leave their country when all these wars were going on? How did you come to live where your at? I said little comparsion to Arficans cause we have NO choice neither die or slave. No runaway, No escape to a foreign land, No help from compassionate people. No way to FIGHT back! You said that your people were fighting! Right there they had more of a chance to survival than the Africans and you are the product! So you feel the only ones that drive you white rasta away from Rasta is Babylon? You sound let a mason! Do you know that the freemansons of Europe 30 degree inititate has to be born again ck!?!? Thats what you are saying to me. You have been born again black! This is what I'm talking about.....CULTURE THIEVES! The white man is! Now you speak of my African and Black Leaders like you AFrican/Black! ARE YOU CRAZY MAN! I see you love and know your history, and realize you have Otx Christainity in your blood. WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT THAT? You don't! Like I said you should try EOC and still worship Selassie. But you reject the struggles your people has gone thru and throw your inhert faith and PERTEND YOUR ARE African and worship the African God. Thats what you have done. You are like Hilter! A man who DOESN'T accept what JAH has given you. So you TAKE on the disgise of another! Why? Like I mention before only whitess do this...no another races or color of people do! Why? Why? Why?
To re-qoute Diop you are a TREE without it ROOTS!

One
ZA-ZA


Messenger: the rock Sent: 3/5/2004 10:32:26 AM
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this is something for the PEOPLE..all people have got know them self{ALL OF THE STORY HISSTORY then the truth if it be your will}LOOK at one part then at you see..seen..white people that you say a lost,have in the past benfound..them that did not want part in the knew world but just came to leave there F-up lives...they stayed them self but ,not but changed...IT was something like they had been a new..they saw the AFRICAN.not as a slave but as a god...they wanted to be like god.but still stay them selfs so they call them self QUAKERS of ABOLISH of slaver..more work to be down..

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Messenger: Za-Za Sent: 3/5/2004 11:07:29 AM
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Rock I not understanding you completely so this may not be what you are talking about. But did you say the Quakers wanted to abolish slavery when they came here? I only read and talk correct english. So I really cannot understand you...please explain more!

One
ZA-ZA


Messenger: Tribeall Sent: 3/5/2004 12:49:57 PM
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Blessed Love,

I come forward with a question for the I's regarding slavery. The only teaching I have ever gotten on this subject was in school...
But just how did individuals actually get chained and put aboard ships??? I *thought* that anglos and spaniards paid money and goods to tribes and that the tribal elders decided which men and women would go off in to slavery.
Were the anglos barging in with violence, raping and piliging the land and village and took by force people???
Or was the african sold for a price by his/her african bredren???
i do not at all come trying to bring a problem. I TRULY want to overstand how this worked and the only source I have had was in middle school....a source I do not trust. Seen!
I KNOW that slavery was a true abomination, hearticaly. But I have always held in I heart that the true tragedy was that these men were sold by their own families.
Please teach I, InI community.
In humility and with a heavy heart for this confliction on this board at this time,
Sis April


Messenger: the rock Sent: 3/5/2004 1:14:40 PM
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f... that i do not write good english...but i see you do are you telling me something..


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