Prophet7, you quoted
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"Since nobody can interfere in the realm of God we should tolerate and live side by side with those of other faiths. In the mystic traditions of the different religions we have a remarkable unity of spirit. Whatever religion they may profess, they are spiritual kinsmen. While the different religions in their historic forms bind us to limited groups and militate against the development of loyalty to the world community, the mystics have already stood for the fellowship of humanity in harmony with the spirit of the mystics of ages gone by."
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This is actually from two separate quotes. The first sentence is something that Selassie I said. The next part is from a different speech when RasTafarI was presenting an award to Radhakrishan, and it wasn't Selassie I's words, but it was Selassie I quoting something Radhakrishan had said before.
Thanks for helping I notice that. A couple of the speeches on this site came from a website with a bunch of quotes from different speeches and they put it together making it look like one speech. Some time ago I broke up the "speech" and showed references to each of the different speeches that the parts actually came from, but I didn't notice that the one paragraph was a mix of two different speeches and especially the fact that almost the whole paragraph was originally said by somebody else. I updated the page on this website to clarify that paragraph, it is from "Material and Spiritual Progress.
That is not to say that Selassie I didn't agree with this statement. I feel that the reason He quoted it is because He agreed with it.
When you were speaking about judgement and condemnation I assume you weren't talking about I messages, unless I said something I didn't realize. The closest thing I said to judging is saying that she didn't see the Tree of Life.
prophet7, you said,
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If Dagga has found the tree of life who of us is to say he hasn't ? Just because of something you all read in the Internet ? LOL. C'mon.
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I have a LOL, C'mon for you too. My C'mon has to do with that statement completely misrepresenting I, so it puzzles I why it was even said.
When she first made the claim, she didn't even mention the iboga tree, so there was nothing on the internet for I too look at and it was not the internet that made I think it is not. I didn't look at the internet before I responded. It was only afterwards when she mentioned the name of the tree and suggested that we look it up on the internet that I actually looked it up.
And see the point of what I said in reference to what I saw on the internet.
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dagga, you said,
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iboga is the tree of life,nobody never ever said that it could be the tree of knowledge.
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Go to google.com and type:
iboga "tree of knowledge"
and see how many pages you see of people saying something that "nobody never ever said"
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This reference to the internet was to show why would I just accept that what she said is true, as she was implying that we should. When she says "nobody never ever said that" with such conviction like there is no way that anybody said that because she "knows" that nobody ever said that. But with a couple of clicks of a button I can see that many people said that.
People make so many claims based on imagination. I was told by a person that turmeric and garlic have vitamin B12, and when I said that as far as I know they don't, the person said that they did have it for sure. If anybody does some research on turmeric and garlic, I would be surprised if you found even one credible source that said that they have B12.
I got tired of distracting Iself with people's claims many years ago. Too many people make claims based on nothing, no sources and not even based on logic.
And the other reason I mentioned what I saw on the internet. I said:
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You claim iboga is the Tree of Life and others claim this as well. While others claim the iboga is the Tree of Knowledge.
And others claim the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge are other trees.
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People make alot of claims, so are all of them correct? Are there many different varieties of plants (that are not even of the same plant family) that are the Tree of Life?
Prophet7, what is the best response to a claim that I disagree with? Should I pretend to agree, or try to make illogical deductions to build up a case for the tree? Or should I say nothing, neither supporting or disagreeing with the statement?
I don't like to pretend to agree with things I disagree with. And part of the reason I reason on this forum is to show people the way that I see, so they can become One with Jah. So with this perspective, saying nothing would make I feel like I am silently agreeing with the statement, and by doing so I would be encouraging others to deal with something I see as imagination and a distraction.
Dagga said what she said as if she knows it is true. And I said what I said as if I know it is true. So both of us made statements about what we know or believe (time will tell if either of us actually know or just falsely believe).
I would rather be wrong sometimes and be corrected, then waver and speak like every possibility is right. If somebody has more than just a claim and convinces I of something, then I am happy to learn and change I thinking. I would much rather have somebody show I why they disagree with something I say instead of them staying quiet and letting I continue thinking something that is wrong. So I try to do the same towards others. Sometimes I convince them and sometimes they convince I.
Ark I
RasTafarI
Haile Selassie I
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