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Ethiopians dislike rasta at bob marley celeb.

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Messenger: Dreadnut Sent: 2/14/2005 7:17:03 PM
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AFP Features


Ethiopians struggle with Rastafarian tenets at Bob Marley fest

Mon Feb 7,10:40 AM ET


ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia (AFP) - Even as hundreds of thousands of
cheering Ethiopians and visitors came together happily to celebrate
Bob Marley Sunday, an undercurrent of mistrust and uncertainty
swelled through the crowd.


AFP Photo



Many of the late reggae legend's fans pose enormous problems for
Ethiopia's overwhelmingly devout orthodox Christian majority who
regard the teachings and precepts of Rastafarians to be suspect at
best and blasphemous at worst.


Most cannot fathom how or why Rastafarians believe their former
emperor Haile Selassie is god, consider Ethiopia the Biblical
promised land or smoke marijuana, illegal in this country, as a
sacrament.


And beneath a sea of dreadlocked rastas waving portaits of the
emperor and hoisting the red, green and yellow colors of the
Ethiopian flag in Addis Ababa's Meskel Square, those concerns were
evident.


"I don't have much affection for them, but I am not against them,"
said Zenbe Biru, a 22-year-old student at Addis Ababa University. "I
have a problem understanding their philosophy."


Like many other Ethiopians in the estimated crowd of more than
200,000, he said he had been prepared to put aside his misgivings in
order to watch the free outdoor concert, a rare and exciting event
with good music.


"I have my own reservations about the Rastafarians," said 18-year-old
high school pupil Alem Desta. "I hate the way they dress and mostly I
hate what they smoke.


"I have never dreamed of considering them as one of us. They have
their own home, we have our own," he said. "But I like their music."


The Rastafarian movement was born in the slums of Jamaica in the
decades after Ras Tafari Mekonen in 1930 was coronated Emperor Haile
Selassie the First of Ethiopia, then the only African nation not to
have been colonized.


With titles such as "King of Kings," "Conquering Lion of the Tribe of
Judah" and "Elect of God," Haile Selassie became the object of
veneration for Jamaicans tought a mixture of Biblical prophecy and
anti-colonial rhetoric.


And when Haile Selassie visited the island in 1966, not accepting
divinity, but not discouraging it either, the Back to Africa movement
begun in the United States in the 1940s picked up steam in Jamaica.


The emperor offered the Rastafarians land to settle south of Addis
Ababa and since his death in 1975, a succession of post-Haile
Selassie governments in Ethiopia has been trying to deal with their
presence.


Persecuted in the 1970s and '80s by a Marxist dictatorship that had
no use for royalty or god, Ethiopia's Rastafarians are now tolerated
by a government that walks a fine line when it comes to religion.


"The government is not interested in contesting religious claims,"
said Information Minister Simon Bedekat, when asked about complaints
from conservative Christians that the Bob Marley celebrations were
blasphemous.


"This is a secular government that acknowledes the right to believe
in what you believe," he said. "Basically the Rastafarians have the
right to believe in what they believe and the evangelicals also have
that right."


But the use of marijuana, as closely held as belief as any for
Rastafarians, does bother the government, Bedekat said.


"We're worried about it," he said. "We believe that an emerging
society must guard itself from any scourge, be it drugs or other
types of negative influences."





And yet, despite the drugs and dress, the unusual beliefs and other
misgivings about the rastas, a number of Ethiopians were amused and
pleased to see all the attention Haile Selessie is getting 30 years
since his death.

"I am really surprised to see this celebration in a place where I was
condemning Haile Selassie on the orders of (the communist
government)," said pensioner Abebe Gutama, who turned out to watch
the concert.

A septuagenarian former employee in the emperor's palace, Assefa
Tessema, said he was stunned by Haile Selassie's new-found
prominence.

"I was afraid his deeds and activities would remain buried like his
body," he said. "I never expected to hear his name again as glorified
as today in dignity and honor. It's really a miracle."

Perhaps divine after all.



Messenger: Doctor Binghi Sent: 2/14/2005 8:20:31 PM
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Bless, Idren

---This is proof of how misguided the world has become. How is it that the Ethiopians don't even know who their own King is? The fact that they don't understand our philosophies is very troubling to I. This doesn't even make sense. The King is who He is. It can be proven historically that His Majesty sits on the throne of King David and King Solomon. I feel no need, reasoning among Ras, to elaborate on this... The I them should know this already... But does anyone else see my problem with Ethiopians not knowing their own history??? I guess it's not that surprizing after all, considering a few days ago, I had no idea what was going on in America, as far as the "founding fathers" being with the Illuminati.
---I personally know an Ethiopian in my neighborhood. He is Jewish, not Rasta in any way. When I asked him his thoughts on the blood line of His Majesty, and about His Divinity... He thought for a minute (I know he wanted to answer honestly, and to the best of his knowledge) After a minute, he told me: "Well... you really can't argue with fact." I and I will remember his answer forever. Why, then can't Ethiopians see who their King is? Do they honestly think He's dead?? As far as I know, one of the world's most unsolved mysteries is this.. Some say He died, and there is no body. Some say He went into the Holiest of Holies and never came out. Some say He simply disappeared. I've read He died, and they put His body under the toilets in the palace, but I read this on some British website, and I wonder about the accuracy of anything British or American regarding truth.

'Nuf Respect, Rasta people.. Selassie I


Messenger: Dreadnut Sent: 2/14/2005 9:24:10 PM
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Yes I. Them whan fi say dem a bury Jah under a toliet. Haha. Ridiculous! Selassie I Livith and Reign.


Most High Haile I Selassie I Jah Rastafari Selah

Ras Zion I


Messenger: Empress Nzingha Sent: 2/14/2005 11:39:38 PM
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The Ethiopians are no diffrent that the Hebrews in this maner. Each new profit, massiah, etc. is missunderstood by the religion he (unfortunatly women don't get this honor in history) is born into. Never once has one of these man claimed to be who he is believed to be by his followers. The Idren must remember that each man must choose his own way to the promised land. There are many roads that lead to the Creator, just as there are 12 tribes. Herb is a gift from Makeda Queen of Sheba to her descendants and followers, be grateful for it. Just as every man cannot be saved, every man cannot smoke herb. Love your life.

Love Peace and FREEDOM
Empress Nzingha


Messenger: Dreadnut Sent: 2/15/2005 2:33:35 AM
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Yes this is a good point. But the reason that they have this opinion is because they and others say He denied the divinity.


Bless


Messenger: Ras ElIjah Sent: 2/15/2005 7:43:38 AM
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Yes! Selassie I may be isunderstood but they ARE NOT against him. He did things extraordinary, they know he is a Man of God. Many dedicated Ethopian Christians spend much of their time reading scriptures and believe very strongly and what this already know so it is hard to them to think that things are truly different.


Ras ElIjah


Messenger: Doctor Binghi Sent: 2/15/2005 10:30:26 AM
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Respect, beloved.

When His Majesty "denied His divinity", which words did He use? I know who He is, and He would not lie to His people. I think He denied being something He was not. I don't know of Him denying His bloodline. The Bible doesn't say Christ will come again in the same way. It says He will come through the line of King David. He will be a King, not a poor man. He will be crowned King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion from the Tribe of Judah.... now I'm no history professor, but was anyone else in history given that title? And if someone falsely was, did they meet all the other criteria? Who else has the same skin and hair, and a throne room encircled by a rainbow?? No, Idren, I know He is the One spoken of in Revelation. While the rest of the world is waiting for someone that does not exist, we prepare to meet and serve our King.

How does the verse I'm think of go? Something like: "If I go, I do not forsake my people, rather I go to prepare a place for you." The King is sitting in Zion, waiting for us.

-------------Under a toilet...... HHAAAAAAA!!!!!! May whoever said that originally chew of their toungue in their sleep, then choke on it.

Blessed be, Idren. Live Up. Selassie I


Messenger: Empress Nzingha Sent: 2/15/2005 11:00:44 AM
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TEF, it is a little known fact that Yemen, the place Makeda was from (used to be part of Ethiopia) is rich in two things, incense and hemp. The Queen of Sheba got very rich by being the only one selling at least one of these two things, seen. And even though incense was used at the time by everyone, every religion that is to say, that alone would not have yeilded the type of fortune she had. But by finding a way to convert hemp into marijuana... well, thank God for good ideas.
Another interesting fact, the man called Jesus was a Jew not a Christian.
Something to ponder, what religion is God?


Messenger: byngiyute Sent: 2/15/2005 11:20:35 AM
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GREETINGS IN DA NAME OF THE MOST HIGH

I find it comical,the basis behind why many ehtiopians do not regonize H.I.M. for who he is. Do they forget being "CHRISTIAN" that in the old testmant, JESUS denied being the christ. -- "who do you say that I am" -- If we look back,it was right there in the word.

BLESSINGS --


Messenger: Doctor Binghi Sent: 2/15/2005 11:40:03 AM
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Yes I, bingiyute, bless!! <>

Is the Empress saying that the Queen of Sheba got rich by.... selling marijuana??

Would God Himself have a religion? What a thought...

I see through history that when Jah revealed Himself first, His people were Hebrews. After "Jesus", the faithful were Christian. Now, in my opinion, after His Majesty made Himself known, we Rasta people are the ones following Him. We are the only ones that acknowledge ALL of these things.

Each time Jah speaks to man, the majority does not listen. No surprise. Only the minority has been right in the past... This is why out of 100's of millions, only 144,000....... you know where I'm going with this?

Blessed be, Idren. One Love


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