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Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 10/14/2005 11:12:51 AM

I need to be directed to helpful information concerning the effects of drug abuse on family members

Messenger: Sista RasKapten Sent: 10/15/2005 6:48:17 PM

Dear Ras Sistren Khamyl, InI do not have any personal experience with this type of problem but you can find a lot of info online...U might need to be a bit more specific about what exactly u are inquiring about..In your call for help it only says "effects of drug abuse on family members" It all depends on what type of drugs u are talking about and the severeness of the addiction...Also the age & family situation is important. For alcohol problems there is the AA, I'm sure that if you go to a search engine & type in the drug your family or perhaps your Brethren/Sistren are fighting with, all kinds of support groups will be listed. You can aso go to one of the sites like medicsonline,or doctors.com ,etc. and discuss it directly with professional doctors. Much love & strenght if you are going through these tribulations yourself, otherwise please pass on my blessings to the loved ones whom you are inquiring for. Guidance. Sista RasKapten

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 10/16/2005 11:25:01 AM

Ras Sistren Khamyl I don't know of a specific information source that you can find that information from, but there should be many resources for it. I and I could reason about the effects because most people on this forum have probably at least seen the effects this makes on families if they haven't experienced the effects themselves. Ark I RasTafarI Haile Selassie I

Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 10/18/2005 12:12:38 PM

most searches result in numerous links to particular facilities that only advertise their programs I am in a committed relationship with a man who abuses heroine. I am at my ropes end. It's easy to say, "leave" but I've done that before in prior relationships and the problem repeats itself. Sickness and health means a lot to me and drug addiction is an affliction. I honestly believe that if I don't handle things the correct way, I will continue to face this problem until I do. I am just now starting to feel some of the effects the strain has put on our relationship and me in general and I wanted to do a self inventory of common problems to diagnose the degree to which it is effecting my entire family. I suspect that my daughters may know that he is addicted to "something" also. Thank you for your responses, RSK

Messenger: the rock Sent: 10/18/2005 1:07:28 PM

Ras Sistren Khamyl I wish that i had words that could help, but i do not know if any can. I have people in my family that were addiction to drugs and some still are.I myself had to stop smokeing weed because of the effect that it was haveing on my mind. there is some info on heroin on this site http://www.drug-addiction.com/heroin.htm "Heroin is a highly addictive drug, and Heroin Addiction is a serious problem in America. Recent studies suggest a shift from injecting heroin to snorting or smoking because of increased purity and the misconception that these forms of use will not lead to addiction. Heroin is processed from morphine, a naturally occurring substance extracted from the seedpod of the Asian poppy plant. Heroin usually appears as a white or brown powder. Street names for heroin include "smack," "H," "skag," and "junk." Other names may refer to types of heroin produced in a specific geographical area, such as "Mexican black tar."...."

Messenger: Nefertiti Sent: 10/18/2005 2:53:58 PM

Blessed love rasta far i MAY THE WORD OF I MOUTH AND THE IDITATION OF I HEART BE PLEASING TO INI, RASta far I Haile I Selassie I This is hard to say sistren.. based on what u have said about the situation.. Sistren, the i stated that the i is in a commiteed realtionship with a man who is addicted to herion... Well sistren, the i may be committed, however the man is committed to the drug, NOT to u nor the relationship, nor himself. The i must let go of the past realtionships, every day is just another day as is every person and situation. If the i has been in relationships with addicted/abusive persons, then one must let go of that thing within the i to be attracted to addictive/abusive personalities, becuz it just seems that it become an addiction for the i. i used abuse and addictive together becuase they are one in the same. These words are tough to sound, but sistren these things i know. The correct way to handle these things is to keep yourself safe and your daughters. If the man will not be aware of this health issue he is careless about his own temple and has nothing to offer to u except to help u fall down. I know a man who used heroin, not addicted and his girlfriend told him to stop or else it was over.. he stopped. Though today, they are no longer together he does not do heroin and knows that the woman cared and loved him to gie him the choice. As wombman ones want to support and help ini helpmate, YET, one cannot do anything for one who does not want to help ones self site? Love is the only law to obey, and love sometimes means to leave someone alone. It is harsh and hurtful, but do not let any-one drag u down into thier preventalbe illness.. then what is left... 2 wasted lives. Our lives are precious and it is blasphemy to do such things to the perfect body that the most high has given. A committed relationship needs at least 3.. Jah, the i and the i. If the i persist in this one sided relationship, and sistren, that is FREE WILL, please go to N.A. Narcotics anonymus. It will be a place to vent and hear some reality about what self-hatred is about... what is what "ABUSE" is pure and simple...The man must know that and if u have told him and he rejects that, well he is out of touch. u might as well be in a fantasy relationship. If the man is truly abusing something and u know this for real and the conversation turns to denial, well, sometimes ones must reach bottom before they realize thier pain. It is not up to i to save anyone aginst thier will. everyone, wants to know that they are in charge of thier live..The man has a choice each time he picks up the pipe, buys a hit, looks for $ for this thing as well as putting it into his veins and ignoring what he KNOWS. Continue to love the man, but love yourself and your daughters enough to guard your livity, including leavin g if one must be out of the way of destruction. Seek first the kingdom of Jah and ini righteiuosness and all things will be added unto the i. Blessed rasta far i

Messenger: Ark I Sent: 10/18/2005 10:42:35 PM

Ras Sistren Khamyl One of the main things I was going to reason about after reading your second reasoning was what Nefertiti said here: ----------------- If the i has been in relationships with addicted/abusive persons, then one must let go of that thing within the i to be attracted to addictive/abusive personalities, becuz it just seems that it become an addiction for the i. ----------------- This is an important reasoning. The reason the situation keeps on repeating itself is because you are looking for a man with a certain character, and the character you are seeking is not the right one. So think hard about what kind of characteristics are similar between these people and you will probably see that many of the characteristics were visible right when you first met them. This is not to say that all of their characteristics were the same, but there is probably a certain set of characteristics that are common among them. And some of these common characteristics are related to the kind of direction these men go. When you identify how to recognize these people, it is best to avoid them. A man and woman are supposed to come together as One. Separate will never turn into One, so you must look for One. Realize that Life is not just born and dead. Life has Itinued for generations from our foreparents and Life will Itinue as long as I and I Itinue through our children and our children's children. So when you look for a man, look for SomeOne who will contribute to your Itinued life in the most positive way. This will ensure that your children will grow as One, and if you teach them the same, they will look for One to Join with when they become adults. And the cycle will repeat bringing your Life higher and higher. Don't choose a cycle that goes the other way, Life is too important for that. Sometimes the characteristics that people look for are similar to characteristics of somebody they were very close to in the past, whether this somebody was friend or relative. And sometimes the person from the past didn't trod in the right way, but Love for this person was stronger than the view of their negative ways. If this is the case, then stop looking for this person, there is much better if you just look for better. The closeness to a man that deals with righteousness, prosperity, productivity and life will be much greater then the closeness to the opposite, because closeness is much closer when it is One. I have one quote that I will put here from a reasoning I made a couple of years ago on this forum -------------------------------------- Greetings, All the I has to do Sistren is ask the Most High for the proper man for the I self. Ask Jah for a man that will trod with the I, in the I trod towards righteousness. A strong man that will do his part in the Oneness and Inity that a man and woman should have. Jah will surely send you the right man if the I asks. But be aware, and study who comes your way, because not all who come will be sent from Jah. Make sure that you be observant to his movements, words, and vibes. Trust your own senses, don't deny it, because Jah give I and I our senses to help I and I see the hidden things. Always remember that a man and woman is to be One. So the I needs to be sure that the man you find can be One with the I. Otherwise, you will not have what Jah has given I and I to have. Patience and Observance I Sistren, Ark I RasTafarI Haile Selassie I -------------------------------------- Blessed Love Ark I RasTafarI Haile Selassie I

Messenger: soul sista shirl Sent: 10/19/2005 5:58:41 AM

GREETINGS SISTER , I FEEL FOR YOUR SITUATION. BUT I FEEL THAT THE FACT YOU ASK FOR HELP MEAN YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER ! YES THE ADDICTION IS AN AFFLICTION . BUT UNLESS YOUR PARTNER WISHES TO SEEK HELP . YOU YOURSELF CANNOT HELP HIM . YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IS THIS THE BEST SITUATION FOR YOU AND YOUR DAWTA'S TO BE IN ? JAH WILL GIVE YOU THE STRENGTH AND COURAGE THAT YOU NEED TO GET THRU THIS . YOU SAY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN THIS SITUATION BEFORE ! WELL THINK BOUT THAT! IF IT DIDN'T WORK BEFORE WHAT MAKES YOU THINK IT WILL THIS TIME . I'M NOT SAYING TURN YOUR BACK ON HIM. BE THERE TO SUPPORT HIM IF HE WANTS TO CHANGE . BUT UNLESS THAT WAT HE WANTS , I CAN SEE NOTHING MORE THAN MORE PAIN AND HEARTACHE FOR YOU . AND I KNOW THAT NOT JAH PLAN FOR YOU ! BE STRONG SISTER . ITS OK TO TROD THIS ROAD ALONE , JAH IS BY YOUR SIDE , YES ITS NICE TO HAVE A STRONG MAN BY I NI SIDE , BUT BUT IF THEM WEAK IT NOT GOOD COZ THEY GONA BRING YOU DOWN ! PUT NO MAN OR WOMAN BEFORE JAH , JAH COME FIRST IN IVERTHING I N I DO . BLESSED LOVE SISTER

Messenger: Ras Sistren Khamyl Sent: 10/19/2005 9:11:29 AM

Thanks, and blessings to you all. As you have reasoned, I have decided. I think the sistren was correct when she reason that I already know the answer. I made a decision; I ask Jah to remove this man from my life if I should not be with him, and he did! Previously, I attempted to end this relationship, but we always ended up back together. The difference this time is that I leaned not to my own understanding, and relied on the overstanding that Jah will provide, and Jah was there all the time, waiting to close that door for me. Jah was waiting on my will. Now, what is most intriguing is the echo of reasoning that there is something in these men that I seek. I have always believed that but do not overstand what that is, nor seek men. I have always been happier alone with my children, my creator, and my herbs. The only thing different about this situation is that this man has not denied the addiction and the others did. Nonetheless, I am more at peace with him not in my midst. I must again thank you all for your sound reasoning, and not judging me. The Jah in You (InI) is shining through. One Love RSK

Messenger: nazaritepj Sent: 10/20/2005 5:07:36 AM

blessed RSK. You are a kind hearted woman, with much love to give. You have the light, you have the truth that flows within and thru you. You do not seek the troubled souls that come to you, it is the light within you that attract them to you, as a moth to a flame. A moth will come to light and flame straight away, not even knowing why, it is a built in instinct. Such to with troubled souls, they seek the light on instinct, to brighten up their dark world. The overstanding that is missing is that even as much as you wish to help them, for you have the kind heart, your light cannot be their light, for the light comes from within. They must turn off the darkness themselves, for the light to flow thru them, as it flows thru you. It is a dark world that we live in, for a short time more. Please to not eva let your light be extinguished by the darkness of those who seek your light as a way away from their shadows.

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